So, how is Pagos?

[MomomiMomi]

Sad when new content is released, and the progression for it is to literally go to the obsolete version first for a few to several levels.

But then that would mean that it isn't obsolete!

Don't take this post too seriously.

[Cylla]

I've heard this as well. Some people were speculating you could maybe stay in there for a couple elemental levels, because NMs are easier to spawn. At least to 23, I've heard, though some said 27; not sure how well that would work though, unless you were spawning the higher level NMs. Sad when new content is released, and the progression for it is to literally go to the obsolete version first for a few to several levels.

I may have to give this a try then. I'd rather sit in Anemos where things spawn within the few hours there over pagos where see a whole maybe two fates if that.

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On a side note, saw someone post a reddit thread about the reason why they didn't add in upgrade armor this time.... I'm just....who the heck did they get this information from? I sure the heck didn't vote for the no upgrade to armor. When I heard there would be no upgrade to the AF my first two thoughts, "Well this was a pure waste of time." after I worked on three jobs total and "Welp, this is purely disappointing." gave the benefit of the doubt that hopefully pagos was something new and exciting. Boy did SE drop the bomb on this... pagos has to be the most boring content I've seen yet, and no armor upgrade. Back to the tome grind for me to now upgrade armor... *shivers at the thought of doing lighthouse*

[NessaWyvern]

I have heard some people say they like Eureka because it's... Relaxing?
Personally I find TT and chocobo racing relaxing, Eureka is just boring to me :P

[Souljacker]

I have heard some people say they like Eureka because it's... Relaxing?
Personally I find TT and chocobo racing relaxing, Eureka is just boring to me :P

The folks who say that are the same folks who defended the half hour ferry trips in XI because it was 'relaxing' and meant they could go do some chores or whatever for a while. I don't like this idea of waiting before getting to do something interesting, and I sure as hell was disappointed that last night, after talking to Krile the couple times to do the EXACT SAME SEQUENCE OF QUESTS AS ANEMOS (Holy macaroni, seriously?), there was nothing else interesting enough to stop me from killing the sound and watching Netflix.

I can count on zero hands the number of times I EVER turned off the sound in another MMO to watch netflix. I can't think of a single bit of content in WoW, Rift, SWTOR, or any of the other games I've played over the years that actually encouraged this kind of 'AFK until something happens' gameplay.

For the longest time everyone thought YoshiP was the savior of the game - and maybe in some ways he was - but for realistic, meaningful grind that doesn't reward NOT playing the game?

Give us Tanaka back. This is getting ridiculous. YoshiP is in over his head and someone is feeding him bad information.

[Cylla]

The folks who say that are the same folks who defended the half hour ferry trips in XI because it was 'relaxing' and meant they could go do some chores or whatever for a while.

Wanted to touch on this a bit, but one thing, ferry trips weren't a half an hour long ride. There was also an actual point to the ferry rides. Be it from hunting down the pirates for that a quest in Mhaura, NM hunting, to fishing off the ferry. If people took the time to see beyond the time it took for a ferry to get to port to leaving, time on the sea, to the next port it was actually worth wild and fun. It was relaxing, and sometimes (back when people were still new) even pure chaos. Watching someone unknowingly walk up them stairs and onto deck just to get met with a NM in their face. There was excitement in the whole thing.

I'm sure you're right, people did walk away and do whatever during the time to the next port but not all of us who defended the ferry ride walked away to do other things. I'd hunt for NM's, I'd fish off the boat going back and forth. And sometimes I just took the ferry to stand out on the deck, enjoy the music playing and snap a few screen shots or help out the fishers by taking mobs they fished up and killing them.

I may be a bit bias (or a lot) but still to this day, XI is and at this point will only be SE greatest MMO. It may not have done everything right (what MMO does?) but it still far surpasses XIV in terms of enjoyment in nearly almost every area. Up until Abyssea and even then, some of Abyssea was enjoyable, XI just took a hard hit when it started falling from it prime years and new players were getting power leveled on worms and coming back out not having a clue what the heck they were doing. Like a DRG coming out after hitting level 99 and saying, "Why can't I hit anything?!" derp.. your a DRG... I mean... um have you thought that maybe you need to skill up your weapon? (lol sorry some light humor).

But yes, I defend the ferry trips. I wish it was an option in XIV also for those who want to take the time to enjoy the ride while still having the option of just porting nearly where ever for those who don't want to take these rides.

As for the rest of what you said, I can fully agree with. Yoshi saved this game from 1.0 but his ideas as of recent have felt like it bringing this game back down. Between housing being such a problem, all these little systems like the glamour dresser being so limited and poorly designed, to content that just not even remotely rewarding (at this point, may be the first AF weapon I drop and don't work on), to content being so spaced out and just again, blah. He's in over his head now. His ideas, while I don't know with the JP players how they feel, I as an NA player feel it just really horrible and I'm having a hard time answering myself when I ask the question, "What reasons do I have to pay my sub this month?" And when I answer myself, only thing I can come up with is, "Because my best friend and family plays." that it. Hardly seems worth the $15.99 when you can only add it up to, "I'm only here because of friends/family."

[347SPECTRE]

I see some speculation on how the JP community feels about this................content....... But i'd really like to see what they're saying? Anyone able to translate?

[Maero]

I am debating even bothering. Will check out to see what the new areas and enemies look like but for Relic (seeing on how late it is) it is just glam and not worth the time.
@Spectre, it is content i suppose no matter if it is good or bad (or in this case late content)

[sexythaumaturge]

I find it baffling how they think it's a good idea to plop a hundred players next to each other, countless name tags and vomit-inducing special effects everywhere, everything looking like a slideshow, repeating the same thing over and over for hours. Maybe it works for player with high-end PCs, but on the PS4, it's a complete unplayable travesty.

[Niqote]

I find it baffling how they think it's a good idea to plop a hundred players next to each other, countless name tags and vomit-inducing special effects everywhere, everything looking like a slideshow, repeating the same thing over and over for hours. Maybe it works for player with high-end PCs, but on the PS4, it's a complete unplayable travesty.

Change your personal settings, I havent had anyones name display other then my friends for years. (unless i target them)
Change other peoples effects to none and your party members to limited.

You might like this better.

[Claviusnex]

Change your personal settings, I havent had anyones name display other then my friends for years. (unless i target them)
Change other peoples effects to none and your party members to limited.

You might like this better.

This will help some but SE has a big problem with the rules they use to cull objects when their are too many on the screen. I have no idea what their selection criteria is as it seems to just be random. They need to change the priority so they never cull your target, party or nearby adds. It is one of the reasons I quit doing Anemos after I got the mount and minions and will do the same with Pagos. Besides the excessive grind for no gain I don't like being killed by enemies I can't see or being able to raise a party member standing next to my but culled do to object count. What makes it worse is it isn't like SE didn't know about these problems as it has happened on world bosses for years. The difference is SE made an area that exacerbates they problem to the point you can't avoid it.