Yeah, i basically always pull in defiance. Even in my raid group. The damage loss is SOOO miniscule i really cant justify not. You nearly triple (2.7) the enmity of Toma, Eye combo and get a 1200 potency equil at the expence of 5% deliverance potency for 4 unbuffed GCDS (Toma/Eye combo).

The net loss in potency on those 4gcds is 38.5. Lets say you do ~3 autos for 100 potency (another 5 lost each). You lost a whopping ~50 potency to bring your aggro from 1641(GCDs) to 4431(GCDs)+3240(equil). I will sac 50 potency for +6029 enmity in an opener.

I get that damage is king and the min max is real but that 50 potency will never break my runs, but loosing it because my nin forgot to shade the whm once a night will. 6k enmity for 50 potency I take all day ery day.

I really dont get why people (especially in pugs) are so obsessed with every bit of damage when most of them suck far to much for it to matter.