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    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
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    Gulvioir Muruc
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    All valid points but they side step the issue of what's proper in a pug environment. If the DRK is pulling should they not DAPS in pug? Like, as WAR I know I can pull without Defiance, but I still do because it feels like the minimal amount of pug etiquette to display since I know I'll be sitting in Deliverance the rest of the fight, ya know? If you're speedrunning or whatever then priorities shift of course, but average PF groups are average, focus should be on getting the group through consistently. But that's just my mentality I guess, a lot of tanks seem to shun responsibility now-a-days, but at the bare minimum we are responsible for grabbing solid initial threat so that others can start hamming right away.
    If people are using their aggro tools properly then it may or may not be an issue. Consider pulling in grit with DA dark passenger is 3,628 enmity potency add in dark arts plunge and you are looking at around 4800 enmity potency (also going straight into your siphon strike combo gives 2400 MP while still in grit so extra mp + extra from having blood price active and you are back up to two dark arts worth of MP + bonus blood), compare that to equilibrium at 1620 enmity potency. The main difference comes from the follow up IR burst window, but a dark knight should be in a similar state prior to using all of their oGCD in the opener.

    In the end do what you feel safe with in pugs, but this really falls into a you can always add more aggro category. Want to play safer in terms of enmity with warrior? Eye opener with equilibrium > IR > unchained BB. Want to play safer in terms of enmity with Dark Knight? DA PS.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 08-24-2018 at 02:13 AM.