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  1. #31
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    Grimoire-M's Avatar
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Honestly you could make Enochian into a trait and it would work fine. The only reason to do is if there's a plan to consolidate more buttons in 5.0.
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    Blazikenowen Thedevil
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    my gear level is 200 most of its shire stuff from the silver feathers I got for returning but then I have some stuff better then the first blm lvl 60 stuff in stats I waited till I could use them before I attacked anything as blm and my lack of gil doesnt help me get better equips
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  3. #33
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
    But I still don't get out of all the useless spells blm has, somehow the spell that's functioning properly is suddenly an issue. It's a buff that you pop in the start of your rotation. What if we tried to make f2 b2 scathe or freeze useful? Especially freeze.
    Then we have more buttons on our bar and suddenly Enochian is taking up space.

    Slot economy is a thing.

    The point of removing unneeded abilities or folding them into others is so we have more bar space for more stuff.

    Enochian fits this bill. FOld it into AF/Ui and we have one more slot to make use of for a new or revamped thing.
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  4. #34
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    Jack Cinder
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Then we have more buttons on our bar and suddenly Enochian is taking up space.

    Slot economy is a thing.

    The point of removing unneeded abilities or folding them into others is so we have more bar space for more stuff.

    Enochian fits this bill. FOld it into AF/Ui and we have one more slot to make use of for a new or revamped thing.
    Slot economy? Blm basically has the least binds already lol.
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  5. #35
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
    Slot economy? Blm basically has the least binds already lol.
    There's only a few outliers here, and that's primarily Paladin, Astrologian, and Dragoon.

    Everyone else is at a strained but comfortable amount when role actions are taken into account.

    Not everyone has a macro mouse or keyboard nor should someone need it, and Controller's are still a factor for as long as this game remains on console.
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  6. #36
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I would like to see a permanent Astral or Umbral status where one of them is always up (unless you died or clicked it off) but you can easily switch between them using Transpose or the relevant Fire/Blizz magic. As you switch between the statuses successfully Enochain (which is now trait) provides stacks which unlocks Foul (so to avoid any BLM just standing still and getting Foul after 30secs for not doing anything). Tier 1 of Fire/Blizz will seem dated come 5.0, so losing them from having constant Tier 4 shouldn't be too broken.

    The pros are BLMs aren't punished as much if they don't switch statuses in time or when we have fat fingers and press the wrong action and we end up having to build up Eno/Hearts etc again, plus any long moving mechanics where you feel every single thing is targeting you. The cons it could make the job a bit too easy, and some other things might need a little rebalancing.
    I had suggested ages ago. what I think they should do is make enochain refresh the current AF/UI duration to max. would make it more functional mid battle as it could be used to extend the fire 4 burst without needing fire 1 and would also allow for smoother gameplay when handling mechanics. if your dodging mechanics and your current astral timer is down to 2 seconds hitting enochain to extend the AF duration would allow you to continue your rotation without having to transpose into ice early to keep the buff up.

    would make it much more functional and usefull I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    There's only a few outliers here, and that's primarily Paladin, Astrologian, and Dragoon.

    Everyone else is at a strained but comfortable amount when role actions are taken into account.

    Not everyone has a macro mouse or keyboard nor should someone need it, and Controller's are still a factor for as long as this game remains on console.
    You don't need one. I don't think theres a single job that you cant comfortably set up on controller. even my scholar is set up on one xhotbar plus the expanded one. the only exception being lolsustain on the wxhb which I typically only use for phoenix downs or potions in hoh or random emote / chat macros for beasty quests like "/s his whiskers" or /slap
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    Last edited by Dzian; 08-13-2018 at 07:22 AM.

  7. #37
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    Ku Rando
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    Alpha
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
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    Hmm I found most jobs easily full up two hotbars with their own actions and the 5 role skills, the only exceptions being AST, PLD and SCH which often need a third bar to house a couple of remaining actions. Of course this is all going to change when we get to equip 10 role actions instead of 5, so the majority of them may need a little rearranging from some players but hopefully there is some proper fix for these actions planned come 5.0. Still some job actions could benefit from being merged, never understood why Impact had to be seperate from Jolt II or Staight Shot from Refulgent Arrow but hey ho they seem to have been designed in that way.
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  8. #38
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    Estarossa Avendesora
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    Sagittarius
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    You need to keep up enochian for Foul, so probably they will make enochian a trait and in 5.0 they will make "keep Foul to unlock this skill" etc or something like that. Because BLM rotation is, right now, evolves around keeping the rotation itself. So probably we may see fire V or just an upgrade to Foul.
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  9. #39
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    There's only a few outliers here, and that's primarily Paladin, Astrologian, and Dragoon.

    Everyone else is at a strained but comfortable amount when role actions are taken into account.

    Not everyone has a macro mouse or keyboard nor should someone need it, and Controller's are still a factor for as long as this game remains on console.
    Just mentioning: controllers, when configured correctly, have access to anywhere between 32 (L2, R2, L2+R2, R2+L2) to 40 (L2L2, R2R2) actions at any one time. Not to mention macros can be bound to L3 and R3, increasing potential action space to 41. This isn't even mentioning setting up a second quickbar to navigate to with R1, increasing that further to 57. And these are all strictly combat actions, mind, as you can set certain crossbars to automatically shift when one has their weapon drawn, and filter possible bar selection based on weapon sheath status.

    Controller players have plenty of space in this game. Just takes some hunting in the options menu to maximize one's use of it.
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  10. #40
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    Ferris Straynge
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 80
    Because they probably consider Aleister Crowley a black mage and he was into Enochian Magic? Even though Enochian is technically Angelic magic. So shouldn't that make him a white mage? Maybe it was all the partying and booze? Now I'm just confused.
    Sorry, I have yet to play a Black Mage so I'm really no help. I just wanted to say hi.
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