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  1. #1
    Player
    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    to make you jump through more hoops to do your primary job of big numbers. XD
    I don't like Enochian, I feel like the timer is to short, and that it should be a stance with some kind of drawback, like rework the entire job so that you have normal mp regen regardless of Astral Fire, and Super High MP Regen under Umbral Ice as normal (what we have now.) but while in Enochian Stance apply the No MP Regen but you gain access to your level 4 spells and the 10% damage increase, and just to balance it out a bit more apply a flat mp cost reduction to all spells cast by the black mage while its being used maybe a 50% reduction.
    So you stay in fire longer and stay in ice longer?

    That sounds like a net loss.
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    Selvokaz's Avatar
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    So you stay in fire longer and stay in ice longer?

    That sounds like a net loss.
    how do you even arrive at that? from that? Walk me through it, cause as the person who wrote it, I don't see at any point where it says, you stay any in mode longer than usual, especially umbral ice since I specifically said super clearly you still maintain the super mp regen you already get with it.
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    Last edited by Selvokaz; 08-08-2018 at 02:25 PM.

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    megaowen's Avatar
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    Blazikenowen Thedevil
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    I've read what you all said and mentioning enochian is a buff and this I know but my question mostly is why does it exist because while sure its a buff said buff could of been slapped together with something else or as something else enochian seems to be less of a buff and more of an annoyance to irritate blms since you NEED to use it and keep up fire/ice meter just to use the level 4 version of the spells if anything it could of been replaced with something better and the buff put as a passive with something else also I saw people saying blm has survivability but at lvl 60 as a blm I cant pull out enough damage to kill a lvl 60 enemy alone because monsters are faster then me as attacking and I have no real way to protect myself sure im slamming out big numbers but not fast enough and well drain is trash and doesnt heal anything worthwhile I've been a blm mage since the start oh playing so I know the rotation but I just seem now to pull out spells fast enough
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    Zerathor's Avatar
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    Jack Cinder
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by megaowen View Post
    I've read what you all said and mentioning enochian is a buff and this I know but my question mostly is why does it exist because while sure its a buff said buff could of been slapped together with something else or as something else enochian seems to be less of a buff and more of an annoyance to irritate blms since you NEED to use it and keep up fire/ice meter just to use the level 4 version of the spells if anything it could of been replaced with something better and the buff put as a passive with something else also I saw people saying blm has survivability but at lvl 60 as a blm I cant pull out enough damage to kill a lvl 60 enemy alone because monsters are faster then me as attacking and I have no real way to protect myself sure im slamming out big numbers but not fast enough and well drain is trash and doesnt heal anything worthwhile I've been a blm mage since the start oh playing so I know the rotation but I just seem now to pull out spells fast enough
    You press it once, in the entire fight.
    And if you can't kill a level 60 mob on your own at lvl 60, you're doing something horribly wrong, or are wearing level 50 gear. From 1 to 70, everything melts like butter.

    B3 eno t3 b4 f3 f4 f4 f4 f1 f4 f4 f4 b3. If that's overkill for what you're facing skip the t3 and b4 to do 5 f4s instead of 6 and save time.

    Also remember sleep is a spell.
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    Last edited by Zerathor; 08-11-2018 at 10:45 AM.

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    megaowen's Avatar
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    Blazikenowen Thedevil
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    see thats the thing none of my gear was lvl 50 and yet I keep dying because im having the issue of casting times being to slow it could be an equip issue but the current stuff im wearing have got me through everything else yet for some reason a lvl 60 mob can kill me at this point im just using boosted warrior to do the story then when I have heaven on high I will level my blm to 70 then gonna have to find a way to get a crap ton of gil since I recently ran out and have no gathering jobs leveled and will then proceed to buy decent equipment from the market place
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    Scarlett Dzian
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I would like to see a permanent Astral or Umbral status where one of them is always up (unless you died or clicked it off) but you can easily switch between them using Transpose or the relevant Fire/Blizz magic. As you switch between the statuses successfully Enochain (which is now trait) provides stacks which unlocks Foul (so to avoid any BLM just standing still and getting Foul after 30secs for not doing anything). Tier 1 of Fire/Blizz will seem dated come 5.0, so losing them from having constant Tier 4 shouldn't be too broken.

    The pros are BLMs aren't punished as much if they don't switch statuses in time or when we have fat fingers and press the wrong action and we end up having to build up Eno/Hearts etc again, plus any long moving mechanics where you feel every single thing is targeting you. The cons it could make the job a bit too easy, and some other things might need a little rebalancing.
    I had suggested ages ago. what I think they should do is make enochain refresh the current AF/UI duration to max. would make it more functional mid battle as it could be used to extend the fire 4 burst without needing fire 1 and would also allow for smoother gameplay when handling mechanics. if your dodging mechanics and your current astral timer is down to 2 seconds hitting enochain to extend the AF duration would allow you to continue your rotation without having to transpose into ice early to keep the buff up.

    would make it much more functional and usefull I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    There's only a few outliers here, and that's primarily Paladin, Astrologian, and Dragoon.

    Everyone else is at a strained but comfortable amount when role actions are taken into account.

    Not everyone has a macro mouse or keyboard nor should someone need it, and Controller's are still a factor for as long as this game remains on console.
    You don't need one. I don't think theres a single job that you cant comfortably set up on controller. even my scholar is set up on one xhotbar plus the expanded one. the only exception being lolsustain on the wxhb which I typically only use for phoenix downs or potions in hoh or random emote / chat macros for beasty quests like "/s his whiskers" or /slap
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    Last edited by Dzian; 08-13-2018 at 07:22 AM.

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    MysticDreamer's Avatar
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    Mystic Dreamer
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    It makes black mage fun and rewarding, oh god j remember level 50 blm just spamming fire until refresh just to spam fire 1 all over again.Most boring rotation eve!!!r so I am glad they gave blm some love in heavensward/stormblood.
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Use yoour chocobo, and buy starting gear from a vendor. That should be more than enough.
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
    Also remember sleep is a spell.
    PogChamp

    Can confirm :3 Freeze is also a forgotten spell that helped me in a 3man caster party and allowed me to save my squad multiple times. Vercure is good, but preventing mobs zerging YOU with binds and sleep is even better.
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    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Enochian is pointless fluff at this moment in time and needs shifting to traits and potencies adjusted as necessary. All it does to a competent BLM is force them to clip their second GCD of the fight, then it's useless the rest.
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