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Thread: Physick on SMN

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    Physick on SMN

    Can you make it scale with Int? You do it for other classes, yet you seem to ignore this issue with SMN. I don't want to hear the lame excuse of SMN isn't a healer, so I can say the same about healers doing DPS if you want to play that childish game. Either make it useful or get rid of it, there is no reason for it to be there if they have no intention of fixing it.
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    Healer DPS is not a fair comparison. Healers need to be able to attack when they're solo. Summoners do not need to be able to heal themselves. The solution to failing solo things on SMN, as it is with any other DD job, is (a) kill the things faster or (b) let the NPCs heal you. Even RDM, which has a usable heal, doesn't use it during standard content except as a Dualcast trigger when they can't cast any of their real spells. If you feel that Physick is a waste of bar space, then replace it with one of your death spell buttons.
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    The thing is that RDM suffers a DPS loss every time it uses Vercure or Verraise, SMN on the other hand would have much less to lose with ongoing DOT and pet damage output, not to mention having the better MP management of the two.

    Hopefully Physick will receive some adjustments come next expac, whether it becomes useable again or is upgraded to something completely different, either is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkerr View Post
    Can you make it scale with Int? You do it for other classes, yet you seem to ignore this issue with SMN. I don't want to hear the lame excuse of SMN isn't a healer, so I can say the same about healers doing DPS if you want to play that childish game. Either make it useful or get rid of it, there is no reason for it to be there if they have no intention of fixing it.
    Summoner has physik because arcanist has psyhik and arcanist shares the jobs of both summoner and scholar. Based off that their is no reason why they would just "get rid of it" (it's also one of the reasons why they are never going to do a dual role ever again).

    Also if they made physik scale with intelligence they would be more broken in the meta so I don't think they should just adjust it.

    If you feel it has no use to you either remove it from your bar (which I don't recommend) or put it one one of your less used bars.
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    You can also use drain. It is only 40 potency loss compared to ruin 3(60 with ruination buff). Theoretically it is same potency loss if you use 3x drain or 1x physic. It is pretty fine for solo content.
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    Last edited by Sunako; 07-29-2018 at 07:49 AM.

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    Or make Physick a Lv 2 SCH action.

    I mean what is so hard about firmly slapping it into the SCH skilltree.
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    So.... by your logic holy should get bumped up to 400 pot. Or 680 pot like death flare and ahk mourn right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Or make Physick a Lv 2 SCH action.

    I mean what is so hard about firmly slapping it into the SCH skilltree.
    Anything under lvl 30 still belong to the base class, so making it level 2 still means it's accessible to Arcanist. There is also level sync to consider if SCH does content under lvl 30, which although it's not much it still needs access to it. We don't want another Leeches situation....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Or make Physick a Lv 2 SCH action.

    I mean what is so hard about firmly slapping it into the SCH skilltree.

    It takes less effort to hide the move than for them to code that :P

    In all seriousness it's already pointed out that job abilities start at thirty and that would be way too high to require of the job.
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    I really can’t understand the amount of people that come into these threads defending physick the way it is.

    It is useless, it heals less than a monsters auto attack.

    Does smn need a working physick? No. Is that an excuse to leave it in the useless state it’s in? No. It’s a simple fix, make it scale off INT the same way DoTs scale off MND on sch.

    It’s not about whether it’s needed or useful on smn, it’s about the fact there is a skill that does not scale on the job it can be used by and is the only example of something like that left in the game and it does not need to be that way.
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