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  1. #21
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    I am in favour of this suggestion.

    Chances are most won't agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    It's thoughts like this which hold the organizing efforts back. Are you so blind that you cannot see how silly a comment such as this is? Perhaps give some thought before posting next time.

    Hint: it doesn't matter that there are times when there's less people on because the vast majority of players are in the same time zone and understood that going in..... /facepalm

    This idea will inevitably get rejected because it isn't how things were done in FFXI. That is really sad.
    Ok lets say someone sees an EST server, but does shift work, so sometimes they work 9-5, some days they work nights and sometimes early mornings, thier play times could be erratic, servers based on time zones will segrigate them because sometimes they will have alot of people to play with and other times thier server will be dead, its the main thing I dont like about DCUO, because that has EU servers and US servers giving alot of time when the servers are dead.

    It also causes problems for SE because they are paying to keep the servers running when no one is playing, that cost is being passed onto us with the sub fees, would you leave TVs, lights, games consoles etc on for up to 12hrs when no one was using them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryNixon View Post
    I had to think about this one for a minute.

    No thank you.
    Yeah I give up after that post. It went from narrow-minded to shallow-thinking in record time. Clearly a common sense solution was a poor suggestion to propose to the Final Fantasy community...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    Yeah I give up after that post. Clearly a common sense solution was a poor suggestion to propose to the Final Fantasy community...
    If you have looked at these forums for awhile you would know the EN community is hugely against regional servers, which is what you are proposing, the only differance is this one wouldnt be region locked but it is still in effect a regional server system.

    If you posted it on the JP side they might agree with you more.
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    I am aware. The reasons for being against it are completely unfounded, irrational, or plain stupid. It's just another remnant of the "it wasn't in XI so we reject it" mentality. If XI had had region-based servers, we wouldn't even be having this conversation and you all know it. Common sense is taking a backseat to stubborness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    I am aware. The reasons for being against it are completely unfounded, irrational, or plain stupid. It's just another remnant of the "it wasn't in XI so we reject it" mentality. If XI had had region-based servers, we wouldn't even be having this conversation and you all know it. Common sense is taking a backseat to stubborness.
    Yes I enjoyed FFXI. Yes I maybe played it too much. Yes I was possibly in love with it. I couldnt give a damn that FFXI had international servers so FFXIV should.

    I hate regional servers, they are the worst idea in MMOs, they segrigate people who, for legitimate reasons, cant play during thier region's primetime.

    This is from the guy that stayed up until 4am at events, then woke up at 7am for university and sometimes did not sleep because I was in an American linkshell.

    If FFXI used regional servers I would never have met half my friends on FFXI. Regional servers should never be in MMOs, you dont wanna play with American's then dont. Lets say for example someone from America suddenly starts to suffer from insomnia, after having no sleeping disorders in thier lives because they had no problems they join a US server, thier sleeping paterns will make them play erratically, so why should they play on a dead server.

    Regional servers even unofficial ones are illogical and just cause problems.
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    It doesn't segregate anyone. it places you where there are more people playing in your prime time than otherwise, allowing you to play the game to the highest degree each night.

    Insomnia? really? That's a strawman argument. Regional servers are imo the best way to organize servers to get the most out of your playtime. That doesn't mean someone from EU can't play on a EST server, it's merely a label, a guideline, to allow players to gravitate to where they will see the most action in their timezone. That is all it is, do not blow it up larger than that by throwing around words like segregation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    It doesn't segregate anyone. it places you where there are more people playing in your prime time than otherwise, allowing you to play the game to the highest degree each night.

    Insomnia? really? That's a strawman argument. Regional servers are imo the best way to organize servers to get the most out of your playtime. That doesn't mean someone from EU can't play on a EST server, it's merely a label, a guideline, to allow players to gravitate to where they will see the most action in their timezone. That is all it is, do not blow it up larger than that by throwing around words like segregation.


    Dude if you want regional servers go play some other game that has them. Just because you see it as a better wxperience/play time dosent mean it is a great idea. In effect you are (with regional servers) going to have a period with no-one to very few online playing. Now I dont see why you want only 1 peak time per day with a regional server, vs a world server peak times vary and there is more than 1. This isnt a great idea this is 1 of the worst ideas. Maybe you dont like playing with players from other countries but I do and so do many others. Also it is segregation, why is it not? Just because you say well anyone is welcome to play on that server, but yet you want it to be segregated by times zones for YOUR ENJOYMENT!!!!! No Thanks keep all servers as world servers only.
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    I think people are more concerned about maintaining their current community and friend base over a larger "segregation" concept. Let's face it, at the end of the day I think a majority of people would agree they won't just rather NOT move, or move their server as one.

    I fear located here this topic will lose its purpose as all topics in General do. I recommend representatives from each server go to their respective World forum, and there determine where your major LS and player base is going to. Once you have that, come back here to say "The majority of world XXX will be relocating to server 5!"

    This is probably the first real thing on Lodestone I believe we need to do right! Saddens me to see efforts here always get transformed to BS. I look forward to hearing what the communities as a whole decide.
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    I think in the future, these guidelines may help facilitate new players into time zones according to their availability.

    At present, because SE did not begin with this move, it makes it more difficult to propose it.
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