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    Vampire the answer to the Blue Mage

    Basically lifted directly from Bravely default, the idea is kind of unique.

    It's different enough from typical FF5 Blue mages that FF14 could embrace it as something new. Yet since the name was used in Bravely Default though worked differently than bluemages in previous FF games, the way its done in FF14 could make it standout different from Bravely Default as well.

    I know a lot of people immediately groaned and rolled their eyes at the mere mention of "Vampire", but think about it for a second, in certain fantasy universes when a Vampire consumes another vampire completely it is known as "Diablerie", you gain that vampires generation or lower your own, and more importantly its power. Now FF14 doesn't have to borrow all that, but the concept of this Fake Vampire job, that absorbs a bit of life from a creature and gaining a trait, power, or access to some of the jobs more noteworthy abilities, is like a more indepth version of Blue Mage. We've had Bluemages who've eaten monsters before in the past, Quina for example, and did anyone else notice that Quistis last name is "Trepe", it's one "s" short of being identical to a famous last name used in the Konami series Castlevania as the surname for Alucard who's father is none other than Count Dracula?

    A new DPS role that merges with some of the blue mage skills, combined with a more deeper lore. I this could be the unique spin on the job that it needs to make it standout as not just another reiteration of the job, but something potentially surprisingly different.
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    TBF if we use the bravely series it could also be cats
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    I'm fairly certain that's exactly how Blue Mage will play out. The level 60-70 Red Mage questline has you going up against a villain who is basically a blue mage in all but name and color, He acquires his "void mage" powers by sucking the energy out of his opponents/victims and then using them for himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    It's different enough from typical FF5 Blue mages that FF14 could embrace it as something new. Yet since the name was used in Bravely Default though worked differently than bluemages in previous FF games, the way its done in FF14 could make it standout different from Bravely Default as well.
    I like the idea of some weirdo in Garlemald pretending to be a vampire.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    TBF if we use the bravely series it could also be cats
    With a Miqo'te Job Trainer that gives you cat food?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    did anyone else notice that Quistis last name is "Trepe", it's one "s" short of being identical to a famous last name used in the Konami series Castlevania as the surname for Alucard who's father is none other than Count Dracula?
    Trepe is also Spanish or Portuguese for something along the lines of telling someone off. Considering she's a teacher, I found it amusing as a kid, especially with how she treats Squall outside of class (informally). Her name's a pun.

    The Castlevania series, itself, takes the name Tepes of the historical figure, Vlad III, more commonly known as Vlad the Impaler.

    *Points to character's last name.* :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    I know a lot of people immediately groaned and rolled their eyes at the mere mention of "Vampire", but think about it for a second, in certain fantasy universes when a Vampire consumes another vampire completely it is known as "Diablerie", you gain that vampires generation or lower your own, and more importantly its power.
    I'd actually not mind this, but more because I enjoy seeing mechanics from World of Darkness / Chronicle of Darkness as a whole. Though, I'm not entirely sure how they'd continuously revolve mechanics of the class around it. Learning skills is all well and good, but if BLU were to simply only use that mechanic once, I'm not sure it'd really keep its identity in check in XIV. I feel like it'd need to be a continuous thing, with a meter that needs filling to gain the ability to learn certain moves, not too unlike RDM, DRK, PLD and WAR. Essentially, instead of blood, the job consumes 'essence.' Enough essence allows the use of an ability or abilities after enough meter is gained.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 07-30-2018 at 07:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    I'm fairly certain that's exactly how Blue Mage will play out. The level 60-70 Red Mage questline has you going up against a villain who is basically a blue mage in all but name and color, He acquires his "void mage" powers by sucking the energy out of his opponents/victims and then using them for himself.
    I think you may have that back-to-front. From my understanding, he doesn't acquire his void magic by taking other people's energy, but rather that the process that gave him those powers also made it necessary for him to feed on others' energy to sustain himself. He's not drawing skills or abilities from the other person, 'just' their life force.
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    Here's a thought, what if the class is a mix of pre-existing BLU mage spells, famous blue mage spells like Flamethrower, bad breath and so on, with a vampiric twist on the rest of the class, in the vein that a lot of the original and unique abilities of the class are mimicries of popular vampiric powers. Lifedrain being similar to a clerics heal but is a drain instead from a target creature, maybe the potency isn't as high or maybe it is since not even a cleric can tank being hit forever by healing herself. Soul Drain drain a portion of life from the target and converting it into mp, perhaps this is how they sustain the ability to cast other spells more frequently, as the cost for casting bluemagic/vampiric magic has a pretty high mp cost, so soul draining is something to be expected to see quite often in rotation.
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    The only problem I see is that they used the vampire theme for RDM already
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    The only problem I see is that they used the vampire theme for RDM already
    They used a similar story for the antagonist in the red mage story, but they didnt use it for the hero, in fact it could be that the red mage spawns the blue mage quest. Many already theorize that geomancer will spring from AST, and I find myself wanting to speak like a Malkavian now.
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    Well it's a bit more complex than that, the antagonist read some forbidden red magic books to gain those powers
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