Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
Both palisade and the heal can only target others and have pretty long cooldowns. They don't make them "off-tanks" by any means. Any healer is closer to being an "off-tank" thanks to their low-cooldown shields than any of the existing DPS.

At higher levels titan is useless. When a tank in my party went away from keyboard at the start of the lvl61 dungeon, the summoner brought titan egi for the very first group of three. Not only did it die quickly...but it couldn't hold aggro for more than few seconds. A good, physical DPS will be a comparable tank to titan, if not better. Paladin cannot spam the heal. Due to its cost it requires them to restore the MP with combat skills. Red Mage CAN spam its heal, which is also pretty decent, but it was put there simply because of the theme. Red mages are red mages because they dabble in both black and white magic. Hence why they were given a decent heal. But only one, and it's not good enough to save from any major mess-up in harder content. On the other hand, Red Mages are very straightforward with only one innate skill that's not a straight-out damage skill or a self-buff related to their damage mechanic (yes, yes, there's still "Tether"...but yeah).

And healers are not "DPS to some degree". You seem to not understand the difference between "being" something and having "some" tools. Healers have maybe five or six damaging skills, out of which maybe three can be regularly used without drying them off their mana or being on cooldown. They merely have DPS because otherwise they could not play solo content.
If you can try to change your viewpoint just slightly, and assume that what you've stated here isn't any disagreement with what I've said, but expansion of the principals of what I've said, then you'd start to get a good idea of what it is I propose. Titan-egi can't tank very well at high levels. That is what I had in mind. Paladin cannot spam heals. That is what I had in mind. Healers are not full on DPS. That is what I had in mind.

You argued about specific terminology or classifications, and about Red Mage in particular for some reason, but you haven't argued against the principal idea that I put forth. I'm sorry to say that you've wasted your time, but you seemed to approach this with the idea that you'd be teaching me why I was wrong, without ever telling me I was wrong about anything.

Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding the intention of your reply. Regardless, I think you've misunderstood the idea I've proposed.