I feel it's time for more housing wards again

[Kittypryde]

Stop editing the source you quote from, it makes it look like forgery if you cannot single it out in bold text or whatever, the entire Squadron LB thing that some raiders used in certain savage raids was not an exploit either? and yet some of those people paid for it with a perma ban! I said 'exploit' as in using the system. when you craft an item and sell it on the market you exploit legally by using legal tools at hand in a figure of speech, you just reply to this as you are maybe one of the few getting hit by all this as it is, the current system with grandfathering the way they do is simply not fair, and that is what it is all about all you can do is agree or disagree as there is no real argument about why should be allowed to be able to go at it like this as it is.

Hmmm. I apologise. I don't know how my cut and pasting messed up the quote. My phone is tricky at times.

An exploit in game is usually taken down within a few days, or weeks, and was a systematic flaw in programming. Not a three year fundamental rule that was implemented over many months of programming at the very start of housing. See the difference?

And just to clarify. I have never exploited a raid trick. I have never bought Gil. I have never botted. I have never stole anything from any player. I have never used third party software. I'm not even sure if that exists for my PS4.

[QueenSophie]

Owning multiple plots is by by far my favorite thing about this game, it’s the only reason I stay subbed. It’s not breaking any rules. You’re allowed 8 characters per account. I’ve never seen anyone say having multiple characters is against the rules, so why houses? People just don’t understand the rules. The logic I’ve seen used on these forums is unbelievable. Kittypryde is right about everything. I see people complain every day on every server, yet every server, including my own, always has plots open. I saw a medium open up in every area besides Shirogane the other day, they sat for hours.....where were all the house complainers? Oh I know, they want them handed to them instead of looking for them or working for them, plus they like to complain yet probably can’t afford them either. Same people that complain about wanting a grade 1 medium also only have 2-5 million. Hilarious.

[Kittypryde]

Btw....here's a link to the housing census that me and a few other "greedy multi plot owners" keep updated regularly since Feb, that helps players find houses. It's about two inches up on this same forum. In case you need the link here it is.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sing-Census%21

[Kittypryde]

Owning multiple plots is by by far my favorite thing about this game, it’s the only reason I stay subbed. It’s not breaking any rules. You’re allowed 8 characters per account. I’ve never seen anyone say having multiple characters is against the rules, so why houses? People just don’t understand the rules. The logic I’ve seen used on these forums is unbelievable. Kittypryde is right about everything. I see people complain every day on every server, yet every server, including my own, always has plots open. I saw a medium open up in every area besides Shirogane the other day, they sat for hours.....where were all the house complainers? Oh I know, they want them handed to them instead of looking for them or working for them, plus they like to complain yet probably can’t afford them either. Same people that complain about wanting a grade 1 medium also only have 2-5 million. Hilarious.

/High-five

That is what I have witnessed time and time again on Ultros also. A guy in one of my Linkshells was complaining about there never being a large open for his FC. I asked how much time he spent this week watching auto demos. Guess what his answer was? ZERO . I showed him how to Google the auto demo info online. It took 90secs. He still didn't know what to do, so I helped him unlock the four area aetheryte housing warps. I took him and we camped out every top of the hour that we are on and he got his lav beds large for FC three days later. Now he, along myself made a housing ls to help call out plots that auto demo and give the info to FCs in need. Wow....we are greedy as hell...lol

[QueenSophie]

/High-five

That is what I have witnessed time and time again on Ultros also. A guy in one of my Linkshells was complaining about there never being a large open for his FC. I asked how much time he spent this week watching auto demos. Guess what his answer was? ZERO . I showed him how to Google the auto demo info online. It took 90secs. He still didn't know what to do, so I helped him unlock the four area aetheryte housing warps. I took him and we camped out every top of the hour that we are on and he got his lav beds large for FC three days later. Now he, along myself made a housing ls to help call out plots that auto demo and give the info to FCs in need. Wow....we are greedy as hell...lol

I am also a leader in a housing LS on my server, I try to let all my friends know whenever a good plot is open, as well as I from them of any tricks on how to get one, it’s amazing how many people don’t check aethrytes on the hour....I mean.....how else are you supposed to know if a plot is open? Unless you expect to literally run around each ward in every zone....but that’s the most inefficient and unproductive way ever haha.

[Kittypryde]

The problem is not the minority that makes up multiple house owners. The issue is the housing system itself. There are around 4.3K houses per server IIRC. That is enough for less than 25% of the players on a server like Balmung so even if a couple of hundred open up it won't make a dent in the ratio of players to houses. Go to the smaller servers where the ratio is much closer and you have an excess of housing. Nothing you propose for the current housing system will increase your chances for obtaining a house on Balmung other than a whole new housing system. As long as some players are willing to accept half hearted attempts by SE to quiet the player base down and continue faulting other players for this mess of a system SE will do nothing. The only way to fix housing is to put the blame where it belongs and that is squarely on SE's shoulders.

Well put, and 100% true on all points.

[Reylinn]

Eh, when they added new housing last time they gave FCs the first crack at them and even in Balmung there were leftovers after for personal. I assume when they add more housing in the future FCs will get priority again. I'm pretty sure they consider personal housing a luxury after FCs get the first crack. As long as they keep up that trend, I'm pretty neutral. Maybe shorten the max timer so clickers don't spend 12 hours of their lives dying. there isn't really any functional difference between 3 and 24 hours if their goal is to prevent flipping personals.

[Themarvin]

Actually people who already had houses with last addon could relocate their current ones to a new plot, but meant no loss in plots anyway other than freeing up spots on other wards or housing locations.... relocated to medium quite a few times... and later on got lucky as a large house got empty and relocated there.

[ScootPatoot]

I think this is a server-specific issue. Having played on Balmung (hardly any houses available, if at all), Gilgamesh (usually a few up in Goblet and some in other areas), and Lich (Goblet is a ghost town with about half the smalls available and many at rock-bottom prices), I don't think it's time for more wards. Each server has a different culture, and unfortunately, part of being on a higher-population server is competing for houses. If you want a house that badly where you'd want to change the server. If not, embrace your server's culture, including its drawbacks.

[Themarvin]

Still 4000 houses can room 16000 people, let alone FC's can hold 512 people + FC rooms for players in it, besides of that you can have an apartment as well, have 3 tenants in your house and there barely would be an issue anywhere, spread the love a little and free up if you own multiple houses on a busy server.