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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    1.) You'll make new friends, the same way you made the ones you referred to.

    2.) You can coordinate the move with the people.

    3.) I'm confused, the only people who are getting "left behind" are people who don't play or pay right now. People who you don't talk to on FFXIV. Why should they cater to these people if it gives the rest of us a chance to choose where we want to go?
    Your missing the point, so i'm gonna quote myself from earlier in the thread, maybe you missed it.

    I am in Linkshell A. Linkshell A decide to go to server 1.

    Friends 1-10 are in linkshell A too. They come to server 1. Yaaay.

    Friends 11-30 are in Linkshells B, C and D.

    Linkshells B, C and D all scatter to servers 4, 5 and 6.

    T_T.
    It is highly unlikely everyone I know and care about are going to be able to act in social cohesion. Everyone has different vested interests. SE could move us ALL together (with the exceptions of people that did want to move away to another server and should still have that option.).

    That way, everyone is happy, communities that want to stick together, get too, and people that wanna join an RP/EU only/JP only server are welcome too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongeh1986 View Post
    The point of this thread is that all of this tireless communication to desperately hold our friendships together shouldn't have to happen. There is no reason why SE can't merge servers as they have done with FF11 in the past.
    There is reason, players doesnt only consists of JP or NA players, so u cant really divide it by two. There are minorities on other timezones that doesnt have enough players on daily basis to do contents, these are the people suffering the most. Majorities NAs and JPs will handle fine even if they get distributed to random world, they will be able to easily find another LS and move on with their life.

    While minorities will still struggle if they doesn't have freedom to server transfer. What FF11 has done in the past is only merging two-three lower populated server into one, that doesnt solve the problem with minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongeh1986 View Post
    Thread title: A true reflection of how I feel and what I and perhaps others will do. It's purpose is to be impactful and attract attention. It's done that quite well.

    Second point: Invalid. It isn't temporary. People are going to be permanently moved to different servers. Where does it say that we are all going to be reunited in 2.0? Once those people move servers. I have lost contact with them. Permanently.

    I'm tired of talking to an emotionless brick wall of white knighthood. Obvious troll is obvious. Enjoy your day and stay out of my thread unless you can provide a valid argument for the currently proposed server merger technique.
    Thread title still has nothing to do with the situation at hand. Therefore could be looked over, not that it would be.
    Sense you are so rational and clear on your thought, one would think you would want this thread taken seriously.

    My point is as valid as your point. Invalid point is invalid? lol

    Emotionless brick wall of white knighthood because my opinion and thoughts on the matter don't match up with yours: Got it.

    It's easy to try and dismiss someone and pretend that they will fade into the distance....and then you wake up and realize its the internet.

    Damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post

    That was what i'd do instead of whining because i am sure i won't miss random strangers i don't really play with, maybe they made what my server was, but they will nto effect me in one way or another because we don't really play to begin with.
    didn't mean to be rude sry.

    but let's face the facts:
    - normally the most friends are in the LS where you spend the most time, but there are other friends in other LS as well
    - you won't manage - even when you "sit down with them and talk" - that every LS where your friends are in goes on the same server
    - you know the "let's keep in touch thing" doesn't work quite well being on different servers, we both know that. i want to play together with them, not just having a +1 on facebook

    it's not whining. it's giving feedback.
    there's a merge method, where the population doesn't have to be split and this thread is all about the lack of understanding, why this announced disadvantageous method has been chosen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    There is reason, players doesnt only consists of JP or NA players, so u cant really divide it by two. There are minorities on other timezones that doesnt have enough players on daily basis to do contents, these are the people suffering the most. Majorities NAs and JPs will handle fine even if they get distributed to random world, they will be able to easily find another LS and move on with their life.

    While minorities will still struggle if they doesn't have freedom to server transfer. What FF11 has done in the past is only merging two-three lower populated server into one, that doesnt solve the problem with minority.
    So merge it, then allow server transfers. They are already allowing a 2nd phase of server transfers after the merge, so just make the first merge a straight merge to maintain communities.

    Problem solved. As like 100 people on this thread have suggested, how is this easy solution lost on you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mychael View Post
    I don't understand.
    Seems to be a recurring theme in your posts.

    It's very simple. Blanket world merges suck, and the method we're getting lets us choose where we want to go. It doesn't benefit people who don't play, but why should SE cater to people who don't pay or even play the game?

    Your missing the point, so i'm gonna quote myself from earlier in the thread, maybe you missed it.

    I am in Linkshell A. Linkshell A decide to go to server 1.

    Friends 1-10 are in linkshell A too. They come to server 1. Yaaay.

    Friends 11-30 are in Linkshells B, C and D.

    Linkshells B, C and D all scatter to servers 4, 5 and 6.

    T_T.
    It is highly unlikely everyone I know and care about are going to be able to act in social cohesion. Everyone has different vested interests. SE could move us ALL together (with the exceptions of people that did want to move away to another server and should still have that option.).
    Then you weren't as closely knit as you supposed. I see no issue here, other than your overestimation of camaraderie among your LS mates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    There is reason, players doesnt only consists of JP or NA players, so u cant really divide it by two. There are minorities on other timezones that doesnt have enough players on daily basis to do contents, these are the people suffering the most. Majorities NAs and JPs will handle fine even if they get distributed to random world, they will be able to easily find another LS and move on with their life.

    While minorities will still struggle if they doesn't have freedom to server transfer. What FF11 has done in the past is only merging two-three lower populated server into one, that doesnt solve the problem with minority.
    I am from the UK, I am in the minority. I have never said people should not have the opportunity to pick a server. I'm saying that the ones that don't wish to be moved, shouldn't be , and I quote 'distributed' across the worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongeh1986 View Post
    Thank you for ruining the community (the reason I play mmo's) and thus ending my enjoyment of FFXIV.

    I have many many friends in Trabia, some I only from
    I stopped reading there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    So merge it, then allow server transfers. They are already allowing a 2nd phase of server transfers after the merge, so just make the first merge a straight merge to maintain communities.

    Problem solved. As like 100 people on this thread have suggested, how is this easy solution lost on you?
    You don't see where i am coming from because you are not from minorities probably. Say my server and your server merges, now servers has healthy amount of players but miniorities still lacks in numbers, they want more players on their timezone but now none of them can really convinces majority of their LS to moves for their sake because they are alraedy on healthy server.

    So now they have to pick between strangers with same timezones as them or stick with their LS? with total freedom we have now, we can now discuss things early and start discussing this on multiple forums or early recruitments and find a good server to hopefully be able to make veryone happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    Seems to be a recurring theme in your posts.

    It's very simple. Blanket world merges suck, and the method we're getting lets us choose where we want to go. It doesn't benefit people who don't play, but why should SE cater to people who don't pay or even play the game?
    Perfect. Blanket world merges do not suck, and I'd appreciate you telling me how they suck. In any case, you clearly didn't read anything other but the part that gave you a cheery feeling inside ("I don't understand.").

    It's even simpler than you think. Blanket merges do not benefit players who are not playing. Neither would a free-choice merge. And coincidentally, neither does benefit the offline players.

    If this was a true "choice" kind of merge, when Joe Bob logs in next year, he will be presented with a choice of worlds. He can follow his friends.

    If this was a true blanket merge, Joe Bob would log in and find his friends.

    [Victory Theme]

    But this isn't a true "choice" merge. They're giving us the choice, which they could easily give to the non-subs. But instead, the non-subs are going to be used as fillers for the lesser worlds and never offered a choice.

    Because you support "choice" merges, it is bad that people are requesting that the non-subs get the same choice?

    So for the non-subscribers, you support blanket merges, but for the paying accounts, you support choice. Care to explain?
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