Thanks for ruining the only experience that keeps me playing.

[Mychael]

That's a pretty ironic last statement, isn't it?

Wait, let me context this for you:

"..start a new thread asking for entire servers to be merged and stop pretending that everyone thinks like you do, and wants to be forced into it."

Oy?

Not at all. What you asked for was to escape the "1/2 [of] the people on [your] server" who are "annoying, over-egotistical tightwads." This is a wish on your behalf, not the entirety of your server. So it only makes sense that the entire server should stay together, and you leave.

The solution to your problem is, again, a "Server transfer," limited probably by either a real money cost, or a limit on how often you can transfer. Not uprooting an entire server. I'm sorry that you are displeased with so large a percentage of your server's population, but many of us are not.

[Tachi_Gekko]

Oy?

Not at all. What you asked for was to escape the "1/2 [of] the people on [your] server" who are "annoying, over-egotistical tightwads." This is a wish on your behalf, not the entirety of your server. So it only makes sense that the entire server should stay together, and you leave.

Again, you're on this crazy misconception that everyone believes the same thing as you. Stop that.

The solution to your problem is, again, a "Server transfer," limited probably by either a real money cost, or a limit on how often you can transfer. Not uprooting an entire server. I'm sorry that you are displeased with so large a percentage of your server's population, but many of us are not.

First of all, I shouldn't have to pay money to get away from the people on the server I dislike; I understand that's the 'MMO Model,' but this game is as far from the model as it is. How about this for an option: Everyone gets to scatter for free, but if you want to transfer with a lump sum of people, you have to pay, or you get a restriction to however often you can do it?

That seem fair?

[DrekeLamorte]

There's a lot of nonsense on these forums still. I could add a lengthy response, but instead I'll just list a couple of points.

- The merge probably won't be altered at this stage. You may continue to voice your valid opinion about why "___ method is a more appropriate alternative," without tearing down SE's and everyone's whom varies to yours. I know, sketchy.

- In the event that SE doesn't listen to your demands/requests, if these people to whom you share a connection with really matter to you, then do as instructed by SE. Follow them on the lodestone. Add them to your personal ls friendlist. Jot them down in a notepad document. Talk to them in game and try and work out some sort of cohesive understanding of everyones destination. Add them to alternative communication applications. (If this honestly bugs you so much that you have to respond with something abrasive and whiney as "I shouldn't have too!", then you've missed the point entirely. You should want to. They are your friends right?)

There's plenty of time between now and the merge. Both phases. Maybe, just maybe, SE will get the hint and change their tactics, but if they don't, instead of vehemently complaining and being a raging penis, you could use the plethora of time before you constructively, and work out solutions as best you can.

You're going to lose friends. It happens. RL and In-Game. I'm not saying bite your tongue and take it. What I'm saying is, illustrate some GD tact, and make contingencies like adults.

You're, also, going to make friends. It all depends on how adamantly you want to cling to your complaining instead of better serving yourself and your community, but to those who listen, and probably already understood this, maybe I'll see in you in the New World.

[Bongeh1986]

Boo hoo OP !!

If your linkshell is that good they will decide to move to the same server, if you have more than 1 linkshell you have to make a choice, its too bad.

I just hope they have taken into account players who will be unsubcribed being able to choose a server.

Thanks for being heartless. My friends aren't all in my linkshell, luckily every person on trabia I have spoken to so far wants to all, unanimously join the same server as each other.

Unsubbed people will be 'distributed' across the servers as far as the notice states.

[Eldaena]

There's a lot of nonsense on these forums still. I could add a lengthy response, but instead I'll just list a couple of points.

- The merge probably won't be altered at this stage. You may continue to voice your valid opinion about why "___ method is a more appropriate alternative," without tearing down SE's and everyone's whom varies to yours. I know, sketchy.

- In the event that SE doesn't listen to your demands/requests, if these people to whom you share a connection with really matter to you, then do as instructed by SE. Follow them on the lodestone. Add them to your personal ls friendlist. Jot them down in a notepad document. Talk to them in game and try and work out some sort of cohesive understanding of everyones destination. Add them to alternative communication applications. (If this honestly bugs you so much that you have to respond with something abrasive and whiney as "I shouldn't have too!", then you've missed the point entirely. You should want to. They are your friends right?)

There's plenty of time between now and the merge. Both phases. Maybe, just maybe, SE will get the hint and change their tactics, but if they don't, instead of vehemently complaining and being a raging penis, you could use the plethora of time before you constructively, and work out solutions as best you can.

You're going to lose friends. It happens. RL and In-Game. I'm not saying bite your tongue and take it. What I'm saying is, illustrate some GD tact, and make contingencies like adults.

You're, also, going to make friends. It all depends on how adamantly you want to cling to your complaining instead of better serving yourself and your community, but to those who listen, and probably already understood this, maybe I'll see in you in the New World.

What a well thought out post! My only question is... which server are you going to? lol

[Mychael]

Again, you're on this crazy misconception that everyone believes the same thing as you. Stop that.



First of all, I shouldn't have to pay money to get away from the people on the server I dislike; I understand that's the 'MMO Model,' but this game is as far from the model as it is. How about this for an option: Everyone gets to scatter for free, but if you want to transfer with a lump sum of people, you have to pay, or you get a restriction to however often you can do it?

That seem fair?

I didn't suggest that you should have to pay for a transfer. That would be up to this hypothetical thread I've asked you to create that didn't trample over a lot of people based on you and some others' wants (I don't have accurate stats on who wants what any more than you do, so I'll say "some others"). You seem to think that you being happy cannot coexist with me being happy. And you obsess over the three words "real money cost," when I said "probably by either...or..." If they announced which servers would, by default, move to which new servers, I think most people would follow it even if there was an opt-out feature for free, just for people like you.

[Bongeh1986]

There's a lot of nonsense on these forums still. I could add a lengthy response, but instead I'll just list a couple of points.

- The merge probably won't be altered at this stage. You may continue to voice your valid opinion about why "___ method is a more appropriate alternative," without tearing down SE's and everyone's whom varies to yours. I know, sketchy.

- In the event that SE doesn't listen to your demands/requests, if these people to whom you share a connection with really matter to you, then do as instructed by SE. Follow them on the lodestone. Add them to your personal ls friendlist. Jot them down in a notepad document. Talk to them in game and try and work out some sort of cohesive understanding of everyones destination. Add them to alternative communication applications. (If this honestly bugs you so much that you have to respond with something abrasive and whiney as "I shouldn't have too!", then you've missed the point entirely. You should want to. They are your friends right?)

There's plenty of time between now and the merge. Both phases. Maybe, just maybe, SE will get the hint and change their tactics, but if they don't, instead of vehemently complaining and being a raging penis, you could use the plethora of time before you constructively, and work out solutions as best you can.

You're going to lose friends. It happens. RL and In-Game. I'm not saying bite your tongue and take it. What I'm saying is, illustrate some GD tact, and make contingencies like adults.

You're, also, going to make friends. It all depends on how adamantly you want to cling to your complaining instead of better serving yourself and your community, but to those who listen, and probably already understood this, maybe I'll see in you in the New World.

It seems that the people who disagree with what i'm saying do not have close relationships with numerous varied peoples, spanning multiple linkshells and groups. Just look at the forums, clearly a large percentage of the population is not happy at all with the way things are being done. Bully for you if the change doesn't affect you, but it affects lots of us.

I'm paying for a service. I'm entitled to voice my opinion as you are yours. I don't want to be split up from my friends. Is this really such an outrageous statement to be ridiculed over? Yeah, I could add all my friends on facebook, but what's the point if I can't play FFXIV with them. This isn't about RL. This is about the people I interact with on FFXIV, I have reliable groups of people, I can call on to help me, and me them with various aspects of this game.

There is no guarantee a new group of people will provide that same friendship and support in a game that I pay to play.

I am angry, so are lots of people. Feel free to make a post about how much your love the way things are being done, see how that goes.

[DrekeLamorte]

What a well thought out post! My only question is... which server are you going to? lol

I'm in quite large social shells, end-game, and static. I'll feel bad for losing those shells and the community that was there, but at the end of the day, my small group of close friends in mumble, and in-game, are going to be the decision maker.

When I know where we're going, it'll be in my sig.


@Bongeh: Over-reaction. 100%. I guess I should have expected as much from someone who's so heated at the moment. Not once did I say I agreed with their plan of action, but you decide to excitedly (and rudely) fly your fingers across the keys in "retaliation" as if I had.

Think about the way in which you portray yourself to understand why you're getting so many posts that are attacking though, and it will become clear. You're on the defense for no reason here. If your point is valid, people who agree will agree, and/or like your comment. You don't need to respond to people who are only interested in deconstructing others' posts without providing any insight or advocating alternatives.

Also, I believe early in this thread, you called someone both a White Knight and a Troll. Could you please explain to me how that's possible? Thanks!

[Scherwiz]

funny.
you don't even have to understand japanese to see that the JP players have better ideas for a merge as well.

That chart is how it should be, that way those who will come back are not seperated I know a lot of people are still in wait and see mode.

[Choyi]

Keep in mind, merging servers isnt all about jsut doing a "good deed" for the players on low pop servers, not running extra servers lowers maintance costs for SE.
I'd bet their main intent is to cut costs not to improve the standards of the current playerbase with this move.
The way SE set up this merger is imo one of the worst ways I've seen and they might as well done a full character wipe for as far as I am concernded.