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  1. #41
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    TimeraiderGaranyi's Avatar
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    Timeraider Garanyi
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    Scholar Lv 90
    While i do agree that healing does require the most instant/reflex attention, tanking still requires the most learning of tactics and timings.
    Healers always have to be on their toes due to every fight being different for them ending up with them not really having specific rotations and making their actions based on micromanagement or reflex.
    Tanks (good ones, not the ones flooding the dutyfinder that believe a rotation + good enough gear is all they need) however need to optimise their rotation as well as dps, need to know every single skill and effect the boss can cause and what resistances/skills do or do not affect them, need to know where his teammates are through the entire fight and know what role the person has and when its best to take a hit, avoid it or use skills to block most of its damage depending on what cooldowns the healers do or do not have.
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    Yep ...... This surely would be a good place to place a famous quote...
    But lets not.


  2. #42
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    I leveled a healer just to troll help people with rescue.
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    Last edited by Awha; 07-25-2018 at 06:21 PM.

  3. #43
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    Ultima's Avatar
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    Hibiki Hisakawa
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Ok, I am going to accept your post as an exaggeration. If you feel otherwise, then come along with me while I am tanking. I will put you to work, I promise. I suggest you bring your whole healing kit as WHM. You are going to need it if I am tanking.

    One thing I love doing as tank is pushing cocky healers like you. As a healer main myself, there is nothing more I enjoy than putting one in their place while tanking to let them know that they are part of the team, not a god.
    Oh, I definitely feel otherwise. I'll gladly come along unless it's an EX/Savage/Ultimate, there's no point for me to go into that content because they just reset the tier every 6 months and the gear has been so hideous lately and I've had my fair share of trap parties to prevent me from wanting to do much of that without a static and without the gear looking good, no point - glamour is the true endgame as they say.

    I'll contextualize my statements even though I do revel in this moment. I was referring to how so many healers play in content below the EX/Savage/Ultimate level and there is nothing you can do to "push" a "cocky healer" like me to put me in my "place". My time on this game far exceeds yours and you definitely don't pull harder than my friends do as tanks. But if you really do have this kind of challenge, I hope you bring your entire toolkit as well instead of popping all your buffs before the pull and dying like some tanks do.
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  4. #44
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Ok, I am going to accept your post as an exaggeration. If you feel otherwise, then come along with me while I am tanking. I will put you to work, I promise. I suggest you bring your whole healing kit as WHM. You are going to need it if I am tanking.

    One thing I love doing as tank is pushing cocky healers like you. As a healer main myself, there is nothing more I enjoy than putting one in their place while tanking to let them know that they are part of the team, not a god.
    lol yeah, because spamming cure 2 and the few cooldowns and off-gcd heals is soooo much work... >.>
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  5. #45
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    Hibiki Hisakawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    lol yeah, because spamming cure 2 and the few cooldowns and off-gcd heals is soooo much work... >.>
    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake as they say.

    I do wonder what sort of content Gemina plans to bring me into given that they're level 60, do they have a hidden level 70 or are they going to try and take me to some easy dungeon like the Vault for me to sleep through?
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    Last edited by Ultima; 07-25-2018 at 08:30 PM.

  6. #46
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    Shinobu Yomi
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 88
    I enjoy healing and dpsing, but tanking is just too stressful for me. I'm fine with healing O8s while dishing out a good amount of dps, but doing a lvl 50 dungeon as tank is too much for me, lol. I don't even queue up with my lvl 60 pld for 50/60 roulette. The problem is probably just in my mind, as tanking overall isn't that difficult, but I don't enjoy tanking enough to play this role more.

    And because you as tank more or less decide how the run is going, I think that's a reason why a lot of people don't bother with it. Or they just prefer the other roles.
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  7. #47
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    I always wondered this too. Healing has a higher population but I thought that just because there are more slots offered for them in content like 24 man where there are 6 healers and 3 tanks.

    But tanking IMO is much easier than healing. Healing is stressful IMO. I think it is just intimidating to people.

    People want to follow the leader while people who tank like me want to be the first person to hit the enemy.

    But really both roles when they make major mistakes are noticeable and I think when people see that or experience that mistake it can persuade them to not continue or not choose to play that role.
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  8. #48
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    But really both roles when they make major mistakes are noticeable and I think when people see that or experience that mistake it can persuade them to not continue or not choose to play that role.
    I think that's it basically.

    I think there's a Yoshi P quote somewhere answering the question about Savage 4 man content saying that if the healer dies it's basically game-over and that's too much pressure to put on one player in that environment.

    Obviously everyone is at a different skill/experience level and what is easy for one person would be challenging for another - but the general idea of responsibility and being called out for making mistakes is generally what I see as a reason to not take on these roles.

    I heal because I find it way easier than DPSing - I can do it, but for me I'm just better suited to healing and have been for a long time. I have huge respect for the good DPSers (especially in this game).
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  9. #49
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    Campi Nitsu
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    If you just do the basics, every Job and Role is very very easy in this Game.
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    Nur hübsch sein reicht eben nicht. Man muss auch Bier trinken können.
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  10. #50
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    Dusk Himmel
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    More people like to Role play the qt healer waifu prince/ss type
    and then there are people who just legit like the healer role
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