About the World Merge and Character Transfers (02/09/2012)

[NoctisUmbra]

This isn't a matter of intellect. It's a matter of opinion and preference.

It's a matter of whining. A shining example of naivete.

This is a server merge. No matter how it is carried out, someone somewhere will be complaining. There is no perfect way to do it. There are only ways that will least effect 'you' personally.

They chose to go with a fair system - one that effects every subscribed player. It's a matter of coordination.

[Choyi]

This system works for me thus everyone that suffers from it must be a QQer and everyone should just agree with what SE decides no matter what.

I'm sorry thats basicly all I can read from theese posts, no offence meant, I understand alot of people can't easily see something trough the eyes of another.

If you are content with this system, why are you making such a deal with propositions that could create a system that would work for alot more people, isntead belittening thoose who are voicing their concerns, labeling them as whiners.

Most likely the reason why its done the way it is, is because its cost efficiant and easy for them to implement.
Thats just as likely as a reason that would be a option thats best for the player community.

[Gramul]

It's a matter of whining. A shining example of naivete.

This is a server merge. No matter how it is carried out, someone somewhere will be complaining. There is no perfect way to do it. There are only ways that will least effect 'you' personally.

They chose to go with a fair system - one that effects every subscribed player equally. It's a matter of coordination.

There's a REGULAR and PERFECTLY REASONABLE way to do it, and I simply would like to know [SIZE="7"]->WHY<-[/SIZE] they have chosen to do it in an uncommon execution.

[Phen]

Some in game examples to back up some points, the first in the list market ward was always over used because heck, its the top of the list. So implying that simply removing names stops over/under population is flawed. This is beside the point that numbers have connotations (lucky 7 etc).

The fatigue system was generally hated right? Because you couldn't choose what you actually wanted and were being forced into a certain play style. Having to pick a blind server name is like that but you know if the fatigue system would have enacted and said "pick a card any card it might be a class you want to play!" "Can't i have what i already like?" NOOOOOOOOOOO

[Biggs]

Because if the server fills before all of your ls members choose the server then they are SOL. And do give the, "Well then they should log on as soon a choices are available." because guess what people have lives and jobs that don't let them sign on at SEs convienece.

I understand that not everyone will be able to choose on the first day, but (in my opinion) I don't think that filling a server on the first day is going to happen, which explains why they chose not to name the servers right away. Part of the reason they are doing this the way they are is to give the german and french speaking players the chance to collectivly get on the same server to enhance their playing experience. So while you say this system is totally not fair for you, the system you propose is no less fair to them. You can't please everyone, but it seems like this system will please more people globally than just making the north american folks happy in the way you propose would.

[zaviermhigo]

All you guys with one ls or one group of friends are thinking so small. People with multiple ls or friends that aren't in ls but just on your friends list, you have to now follow those people on the lodestone to make sure you even know where they went. These are friends you don't play/talk to all the time but you would love to again. In this I could lose a lot of friends I made in the beginning of the game that STILL PLAY!

If you don't believe a server will be full in a day you must of not played the very first day of FFXIV. I played CE release 1 week early, Selbina was full the first day, they had to work on it to reopen it. I would like to know I'm picking Selbina again I picked that server for a reason on the first day of release, there was not another server I wanted to be on. I was on Selbina in Open Beta. I don't want to be on Mysidia or Lindblum ( especially the xiii named servers)

[TheVedis]

All you guys with one ls or one group of friends are thinking so small. People with multiple ls or friends that aren't in ls but just on your friends list, you have to now follow those people on the lodestone to make sure you even know where they went. These are friends you don't play/talk to all the time but you would love to again. In this I could lose a lot of friends I made in the beginning of the game that STILL PLAY!

and at the same time, consider that you will make tons of new friends.....

friends come and go, as is life



i see an issue with people who have the max ammount of shells too, but then again as i look at those people, you gotta wonder how loyal they really are to any of those shells, so making them pick who to follow may not actualy be a bad thing

[Biggs]

I'm sorry thats basicly all I can read from theese posts, no offence meant, I understand alot of people can't easily see something trough the eyes of another.

If you are content with this system, why are you making such a deal with propositions that could create a system that would work for alot more people, isntead belittening thoose who are voicing their concerns, labeling them as whiners.

Most likely the reason why its done the way it is, is because its cost efficiant and easy for them to implement.
Thats just as likely as a reason that would be a option thats best for the player community.

You call me a fanboy, misquote me, and have the audacity to say no offense meant? Ballzy. I actually do not have a problem with the system, but even if I did, I understand that this is happening in March, which is way too soon for anything I have to say against it to change things. They aren't going to change this, so instead, I would do my best to make plans accordingly. Please don't misquote me again. There is plenty of things SE has done that I don't agree with, this just happens to not be one of them.

Also, my ability to see why they have done things this way because of the international players is the very definition of seeing things through other peoples eyes. Grow up.

[NoctisUmbra]

There's a REGULAR and PERFECTLY REASONABLE way to do it, and I simply would like to know [SIZE="7"]->WHY<-[/SIZE] they have chosen to do it in an uncommon execution.

Oh, there is a Regular and Perfectly Reasonable way?

I suppose you're referring to combining lower populated servers and keeping high populated servers as is? So half the community remains unaffected while the rest are forced together? Oh, but you allow people the freedom of choice to go where they want as well? This freedom comes with the cost of people losing contact with some friends potentially. No way around that one I'm afraid.

What about their last suggestion and/or plan to close down low populated servers and force people in them to pick from the highly populated ones. Very little choice in that, and again it does not effect some players while it drastically effects others. Also much more limited in space so the closing servers would have to be spread thin across existent large ones.

They had other plans. They were vocal about it. Since then there has been constant discussion about people complaining and suggesting other methods. No matter what people are unhappy.

So SE basically says: "Everyone's moving, and to brand new, empty servers. Coordinate yourselves and do it the way that will best make you happy. You have control."

Eh, that's enough from me. I don't expect to convince anyone to grow up on these forums. Just wait for the translation of Yoshi-P's post - you were asking for an explanation.

[Gramul]

And at the same time, consider that you will make tons of new friends...

Friends come and go, as is life.


I see an issue with people who have the max amount of shells too, but then again as I look at those people, you gotta wonder how loyal they really are to any of those shells, so making them pick who to follow may not actually be a bad thing.

But it doesn't have to happen. We don't have to loose friends under the standard system.

(As far as we know. Patiently awaiting translation of the explanation.)