About the World Merge and Character Transfers (02/09/2012)

[Zoltan]

For this it would actually strengthen bonds

Yes, you are right, because now you will have no friends list, your second largest linkshell is moving to a different server than your largest linkshell and you will never see your longtime friends that took a break and will be forced to migrate to many different servers.

Why not just throw your cell phone away and see how many people call your new number?

[Colino]

Why not just throw your cell phone away and see how many people call your new number?

Yeah thats what I do every time I need some new friends.

Because adding them to my previous phone is soooooooooo complicated!

[Tupsi]

Yes, you are right, because now you will have no friends list, your second largest linkshell is moving to a different server than your largest linkshell and you will never see your longtime friends that took a break and will be forced to migrate to many different servers.

Why not just throw your cell phone away and see how many people call your new number?

And what's the matter? Do neither of your linkshells wish to compromise on the same server? And for people who say they're making friends on the forums and such--those who say "I wish you were on this server" ect. they get no option in this?

It's a game...Yes the people in it are real--but if you're thinking that "Ohhay! I'ma change my phone number and throw away my old one--let's see all my friends call my new one." And expect that NO ONE will call--are they your friends? If you didn't give them the new number in the first place--who's fault is that, there's?

And if you read my full post, I already stated that who knows? They will probably give an option to those who weren't on during this period to get a free transfer in 2.0. Also I said after reading the full post of what options they had, 2 would be more effective--but I guess you got TLDR after reading something you didn't like~. ^^

[KumaAkuma]

And what's the matter? Do neither of your linkshells wish to compromise on the same server? And for people who say they're making friends on the forums and such--those who say "I wish you were on this server" ect. they get no option in this?

It's a game...Yes the people in it are real--but if you're thinking that "Ohhay! I'ma change my phone number and throw away my old one--let's see all my friends call my new one." And expect that NO ONE will call--are they your friends? If you didn't give them the new number in the first place--who's fault is that, there's?

And if you read my full post, I already stated that who knows? They will probably give an option to those who weren't on during this period to get a free transfer in 2.0. Also I said after reading the full post of what options they had, 2 would be more effective--but I guess you got TLDR after reading something you didn't like~. ^^

Unless everyone knows everyone on a server, the "community" for each person on a server is something different and depends on the bonds that person made with other people. Like Gramul said, we're talking about huge spiderwebs here. If you have a small linkshell with 10 people and you consider the bonds every person has in that linkshell and want to get everyone who those people know to the same server and the ones they know... you'll probably end up dragging half if not the whole original server to the new one.

It's not just a matter of a few linkshells that need to move to the same server -_-

[Gramul]

I think Yoshi underestimated the complex structure of the community.
He's basically asking for 18 spider webs to be dissected and reconstructed into 10 new and effective ones.

Webs don't work that way, and we shouldn't have to completely reorganize our social structure like that.

With option ②, players will be given the option to transfer to another World. However, if there ends being too many players who would want to transfer over to that World, it might end up going over the set capacity and overflow the World. Since we won’t know the results would be like until the actual we see the actual results, we would end up taking a huge risk.

Simply looking at other MMO's, you'd see that this simply doesn't happen. It's like they're developing in their own isolated world, and while I'm sure that has it's advantages, looking at MMO history shows us that his concerns over options 1-3 are mostly unwarranted, due to the fact that they happen with little to no trouble.
If this is mostly a concern over European players, you can still have a recommended European server along with options 1-3.

At this point, I think server recommendations list would be the best route to keep people on both sides content.

[WhiteTerror]

I think Yoshi underestimated the complex structure of the community.
He's basically asking for 18 spider webs to be dissected and reconstructed into 10 new and effective ones.

Webs don't work that way, and we shouldn't have to completely reorganize our social structure like that.




Simply looking at other MMO's, you'd see that this simply doesn't happen. It's like they're developing in their own isolated world, and while I'm sure that has it's advantages, looking at MMO history shows us that his concerns over options 1-3 are mostly unwarranted, due to the fact that they happen with little to no trouble.
If this is mostly a concern over European players, you can still have a recommended European server along with options 1-3.

At this point, I think server recommendations list would be the best route to keep people on both sides content.

IMO, option 1 is the best option. German/French players already have niche groups within their individual servers and if they do not, give them the option to move.

Essentially, keep all the world communities intact, but let the outcasts move.

[Halvaard_Vidan]

So instead of Merging worlds in a way that would allow most linkshells to stay togeather, ie A into B, A+B into C, A+B-C into D or E, they go with the option that will cause our inactive friends to be flung to the far corners of Eorza...

Just don't assign inactive account to a server until they return, that way they at least have a chance of returning to their previous group, if they server the group ends up on isn't full.

[neorei]

So instead of Merging worlds in a way that would allow most linkshells to stay togeather, ie A into B, A+B into C, A+B-C into D or E, they go with the option that will cause our inactive friends to be flung to the far corners of Eorza...

Just don't assign inactive account to a server until they return, that way they at least have a chance of returning to their previous group, if they server the group ends up on isn't full.

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[indira]

you know what?, people begged and pleaded for this now people shouldn't cry about it.

should of learned to used the search function, people this forum even said "why should it use it." i bet money people will still cry about not able to find a party post merge. then theres gonna be another problem for them to whine about.

[Zoltan]

you know what?, people begged and pleaded for this now people shouldn't cry about it.

should of learned to used the search function, people this forum even said "why should it use it." i bet money people will still cry about not able to find a party post merge. then theres gonna be another problem for them to whine about.

Server merge was inevitable. The method of their planned merge is highly questionable and forces all subsribers to pick a new server and lose contact with friends which is what MMOs are all about. Yoshi even said so, but he is intentionally chossing the worst option out of thefour options that they considered.

Search engine comments are off-topic.

You have no money worth wagering for.