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  1. #131
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    This is an extremely fair way to manage the merges. Actually I wish that instead of choosing the same names they were picking 10 brand new server names. But naming them after selection is a pretty fair way. Server mergers are sucky so its good they could come up with a method that will remove any exclusivity from the result.

    The only thing that sucks is that a Linkshell (or other group of people) could collude to pick a certain world to merge to and then announce a different world to the less savory members of their group in order to ditch them. I'm sure this will happen in some form and there will be a lot of QQing when people realize that they moved and none of their 'friends' are in the same world.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    So you got nothing? Except that pleasing everyone pleases no one.

    It pleases people who want to stay with their community.
    It pleases people who don't want to stay with their community.

    I'm sorry so who is left not happy? What is the third group?
    No one is saying your method wouldn't work. What we're saying is they haven't made it an option and probably won't, and we've gotten over it. You should too.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    No one is saying your method wouldn't work. What we're saying is they haven't made it an option and probably won't, and we've gotten over it. You should too.
    This won't work.
    I already tried.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    This is an extremely fair way to manage the merges. Actually I wish that instead of choosing the same names they were picking 10 brand new server names. But naming them after selection is a pretty fair way. Server mergers are sucky so its good they could come up with a method that will remove any exclusivity from the result.

    The only thing that sucks is that a Linkshell (or other group of people) could collude to pick a certain world to merge to and then announce a different world to the less savory members of their group in order to ditch them. I'm sure this will happen in some form and there will be a lot of QQing when people realize that they moved and none of their 'friends' are in the same world.
    I partly agree with this in that they should have new names, you will still get people that flock to specific servers due to nostalgia, but people who arent long time FF fans might go somewhere else.

    For example FF9 fans might go to a possible Zidane server, FFIV fans could go to a Kain server, FFVI fans would go to a Bartz server, FFVII fans will go to a cloud server (infact everyone will go to a Cloud server cos he has a big sword!!! (did that sound right?))

    To be honest however they did it would make people rage, if they just did a 2 become one type merge people would rage that thier server was going.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    No one is saying your method wouldn't work. What we're saying is they haven't made it an option and probably won't, and we've gotten over it. You should too.
    It really must have been hard on you to disregard all those deep friendships and connections you have made with people on your server who maybe won't end up going with you to the new server. Took you all of a few hours!

    Sorry, since I started playing the game I kinda went out of the way to be involved in my community. I helped many players when they were new who are now max level, my friend's list is full of people I have played with since day 1 spread across multiple linkshells.

    I've had drama with people, and gotten past it. I've had people leave my linkshell and remain my friend. There are people who I talk to maybe only once a month, but even they make up a large part of the experience. I love Selbina, Selbina and certainly not the current endgame content is why I continue to invest and play this game.

    So I'm sorry it is going to take me more than a few hours to say goodbye to what has been an enjoyable experience. If it is so easy for you, maybe that's because you aren't really that attached to your community (maybe you are even looking forward to a fresh start where people don't you, and good for you but you could have gotten that without depriving me of my community).
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    It really must have been hard on you to disregard all those deep friendships and connections you have made with people on your server who maybe won't end up going with you to the new server. Took you all of a few hours!

    Sorry, since I started playing the game I kinda went out of the way to be involved in my community. I helped many players when they were new who are now max level, my friend's list is full of people I have played with since day 1 spread across multiple linkshells.

    I've had drama with people, and gotten past it. I've had people leave my linkshell and remain my friend. There are people who I talk to maybe only once a month, but even they make up a large part of the experience. I love Selbina, Selbina and certainly not the current endgame content is why I continue to invest and play this game.

    So I'm sorry it is going to take me more than a few hours to say goodbye to what has been an enjoyable experience. If it is so easy for you, maybe that's because you aren't really that well attached to your community.
    I like how you assume he belittles connections with friends just because he doesn't have a bleeding heart like you do.

    Did it ever cross your mind it may not matter to him because anyone that matters will follow him OR he will follow them?

    Sorry some people don't walk around pretending everyone they meet in an MMO, if only for a second, is their friend.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    It really must have been hard on you to disregard all those deep friendships and connections you have made with people on your server who maybe won't end up going with you to the new server. Took you all of a few hours!

    Sorry, since I started playing the game I kinda went out of the way to be involved in my community. I helped many players when they were new who are now max level, my friend's list is full of people I have played with since day 1 spread across multiple linkshells.

    I've had drama with people, and gotten past it. I've had people leave my linkshell and remain my friend. There are people who I talk to maybe only once a month, but even they make up a large part of the experience. I love Selbina, Selbina and certainly not the current endgame content is why I continue to invest and play this game.

    So I'm sorry it is going to take me more than a few hours to say goodbye to what has been an enjoyable experience. If it is so easy for you, maybe that's because you aren't really that attached to your community (maybe you are even looking forward to a fresh start where people don't you, and good for you but you could have gotten that without depriving me of my community).
    I was like you in FFXI, I got help and helped people who I added to my friends list, it was huge, but guess what I hardly ever spoke to them, and I can guess you will be the same.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirOleas View Post
    I like how you assume he belittles connections with friends just because he doesn't have a bleeding heart like you do.

    Did it ever cross your mind it may not matter to him because anyone that matters will follow him OR he will follow them?

    Sorry some people don't walk around pretending everyone they meet in an MMO, if only for a second, is their friend.
    You're right, I'm sure that anyone who matters to him will follow him and if they don't then they will cease to matter to him.

    What an awesome way to look at people you play on a server with! So again which server are you going to?

    On the chance that I will play this game as long as I did FFXI, I actually do kinda care who I play on a server with and they do matter significantly to me. They enhance my enjoyment of the game, or in some cases detract from it.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    You're right, I'm sure that anyone who matters to him will follow him and if they don't then they will cease to matter to him.

    What an awesome way to look at people you play on a server with! So again which server are you going to?

    On the chance that I will play this game as long as I did FFXI, I actually do kinda care who I play on a server with and they do matter significantly to me. They enhance my enjoyment of the game, or in some cases detract from it.
    There's nothing wrong with wanting to enhance your experience through your community.

    There's something wrong when you don't realize that some of us will be able to enhance our experience with any community we land in.

    I guess I (we/whatever) are more flexible than you. And quit asking what server I am joining. Even if I join yours by chance it's not like it effects anything. I promise not to follow you around all day trolling you ok sweetie pie?

    But yep, we're the jerks.
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    I've had drama with people
    I can certainly see why.

    There's something wrong when you don't realize that some of us will be able to enhance our experience with any community we land in.
    Agreed. The world will keep on turning. New friends will be made, new communities shall be forged and there will be much rejoicing (especially for those of us on completely dead servers)!~
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