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  1. #21
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    There was a cutscene with the WoDs where their WAR was the one to channel their very offensive LB. So roles are only a problem when SE wants them to be.
    All they need to do is create a duty action that's the same across roles, that is only usable when you have a full gauge of LB and you're good to go (Lakshmi showed us duty actions can be conditional)
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  2. #22
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    Iunia Arcena
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanitas View Post
    I wanna feel the power too dang it! Let me lb3 a baddie in a duty to show the full might of the WoL while my npc pals respond with "gods what power!!" So in can get the full immersive experience! Ah...but I'm sure that would mean more work making solo duties to account for fact that theres multiple jobs and they'd have to make scenarios to fit each role specific lb and what not.... I still want this though...
    Ueehhhh... Am I the only one who's starting to get tired of the WoL power fantasy getting more and more ridiculous? At this point I would be completely unsurprised if the WoL was revealed to be an eikon, summoned by the prayers of millions of incompetent, unmotivated layabouts who, instead of actually doing anything useful towards liberating their country, spent the last couple of decades waiting for someone to happen along and do it for them in a matter of weeks. Twice.

    Honestly I think the parts I enjoyed the most was getting my butt handed to me by the big bad. I found that believable, I want more of that. I want the WoL's bids to accomplish impossible things to have predictable results more often and have our allies pick up the slack for a change to send a message about being stronger together or some such. *Shrug* Maybe I'm just weird.

    Oh anyways! Back on-topic: solo LBs do sound like fun! Even if the meters were scripted, I'd like that feature just because it would look more stylish to end the duty with a bang instead of going through the same rotation over and over until everything dies. Tho tank and healer LBs probably would have to be different than their group-content versions, they don't make much sense without a party.
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  3. #23
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    Shon Arizaldi
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    Malboro
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    Honestly I think the parts I enjoyed the most was getting my butt handed to me by the big bad. I found that believable, I want more of that. I want the WoL\\'s bids to accomplish impossible things to have predictable results more often and have our allies pick up the slack for a change to send a message about being stronger together or some such.
    I couldn’t agree more! The amount of praise the WoL receives feels off-putting to me, and makes my character feel like it’s not a part of the world. Maybe that’s why I don’t have any interest in a solo LB, why need to prove how powerful I am when NPCs won’t stop going on and on about it?
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  4. #24
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    Iunia Arcena
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Badicalde View Post
    I couldn’t agree more! The amount of praise the WoL receives feels off-putting to me, and makes my character feel like it’s not a part of the world. Maybe that’s why I don’t have any interest in a solo LB, why need to prove how powerful I am when NPCs won’t stop going on and on about it?
    Exactly! A lot of that praise feels like it's being directed at the player more than the character. And that feels wrong because I definitely didn't earn it. I'm not accomplishing 20 heroic deeds per minute because I'm working hard at it, no, heroic deeds just passively happen to me because my character in the story is an omnipotent Mary Sue and everyone ignores the fact that there's thousands of other adventurers running around, many of whom are more experienced and powerful than I. Oh, and they carry me through all the dungeons and boss fights. Why do I get all the credit? I don't deserve it so the constant praise feels dishonest.

    In general, trying to tell a "chosen one" story in an MMO is just... inherently out of place. It might work in a single-player game but the narrative of an MMORPG should be about togetherness and jolly cooperation, not glorifying individual power and self-sufficiency.
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    Last edited by Bonbori; 07-25-2018 at 05:32 AM.

  5. #25
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    Seraphitia Faro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    In general, trying to tell a "chosen one" story in an MMO is just... inherently out of place. It might work in a single-player game but the narrative of an MMORPG should be about togetherness and jolly cooperation, not glorifying individual power and self-sufficiency.
    This is a single-player story in an MMO game. That's why there are so many solo-duties and what not.

    And the Warrior of Light is one of "special" beings. It's very possible they are not of this world indeed. That can be seen at the beginning, when the character is literally floating through the...dimension?!... around Hydaelyn. It's again shown in the Heavensward storyline where Cid I believe reminiscences about an apparition that appeared to him and gave him goggles I believe when he fled Garlemard, which happened to be the Warrior of Light. As in, there's even time-travel motif in this game.

    It is very likely that the Warrior of Light is actually some sort of ether given form, like Eikons, indeed, or maybe a consciousness of some past hero saved from by the mother crystal given body.


    It's too bad, but there's little to no chance of the Warrior of Light being portrayed as anything short of a miracle when the story literally portrays it as a being chosen and blessed by the goddess. If anything, there being a crazy amount of overpowering characters like Zenos that can compete with him/her is making the story more ridiculous. Suddenly we find out that Garlemald have multitude of soldiers that could rip Eikons to shreds and deem it boring...Seriously?! So why exactly did they build huge airships and were trying to exterminate Eorzea for all those years out of fear for Eikons?!...That kind of power creep just to show challenge to the player is a problem. It shows inconsistency in the story. If they decided on the Warrior of Light being some sorta chosen, blessed, inhuman entity...they should stick with it. If they couldn't, they should have started with it being "simply" a fast-learning prodigy whose only real advantage in regards to others is immunity to tempering and cleverness.
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  6. #26
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Personally I like to see this function in Deep Dungeons as solo content relies too much on luck alone.
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