Discussion on tanking

[Strykr512]

Hello fellow tanks! So I have a question\discussion id like to have. So I have just started this game about a month or 2 ago so I'm still learning things. But I was wondering if it was normal for DPS when running general dungeons, to pull bosses and trash before the tank? I play WOW for a long time and that always irritated me as it does here but I'm newer so idk if it's a normal thing that I just don't know about or not. Thanks everyone!

[Joven]

Nope, that's just the DPS being impatient. Just sit back and let them die before continuing.

[SamRF]

Nope, that's just the DPS being impatient. Just sit back and let them die before continuing.

Tanks usually have to go first but I would disagree with letting the DPS die. In most cases when this happens, the DPS is well geared and is able to take a few blows (at some lower levels they might even last longer than the tank). In most cases no one will die and the dungeon will go even faster cause they can continue their combo. Yes it might be a douchy thing to do as DPS but it's not worth slowing the dungeon down since no one is dying.

You bear no responsibility on that impatient DPS dying but it's imo pointless to sit back and let them die, just do your best to keep everyone alive in whatever circumstances, that's the tank mentality you should be going for (and put out as much damage as you can for high end content).

[Lubu_Mykono]

Tanks usually have to go first but I would disagree with letting the DPS die. In most cases when this happens, the DPS is well geared and is able to take a few blows (at some lower levels they might even last longer than the tank). In most cases no one will die and the dungeon will go even faster cause they can continue their combo. Yes it might be a douchy thing to do as DPS but it's not worth slowing the dungeon down since no one is dying.

You bear no responsibility on that impatient DPS dying but it's imo pointless to sit back and let them die, just do your best to keep everyone alive in whatever circumstances, that's the tank mentality you should be going for (and put out as much damage as you can for high end content).

it's nice to shirk an impatient DPS that is pulling constantly, but in general pub roulettes or casual content you are better off just eating it and taking the aggro. I hate it as much as other people but if them dying then complaining then laughing at them as the healer raises them is nice it just makes the whole run awkward, not to mention a lot longer because of DPS fall off and wider chance of wiping.

I just try to eat it up and move on, there is a lot more important stuff in the game to do and worry about than DPS with stupid etiquette. If they do it with you randomly they are probably going to do it with another tank and healer again, let them make a pointless argument with them.

[Strykr512]

Nope, that's just the DPS being impatient. Just sit back and let them die before continuing.

Oh good lol. That's what I do. It just has happened so often I was thinking it was something I was doing wrong lol.

[Joven]

Oh good lol. That's what I do. It just has happened so often I was thinking it was something I was doing wrong lol.

Depending on what dungeon you're running most people you meet in the duty finder have been through it several times and are anxious to get it done. Don't fret too much about it, you aren't doing anything wrong.

[Rongway]

It's not always impatience. Some jobs have buffs or stacks that need time to ramp up. If we wait too long between pulls, those stacks fall off and our attacks lose potency and need to be built back up again.

[Joven]

It's not always impatience. Some jobs have buffs or stacks that need time to ramp up. If we wait too long between pulls, those stacks fall off and our attacks lose potency and need to be built back up again.

It doesn't take all that long to build up stacks of Greased Lightning, after all it is designed to be self-perpetuating. I do agree that having all your stacks fall off all at once is kinda lame. It should drop one stack at a time. That being said though, if you feel like keeping your stacks is worth risking getting overwhelmed then have fun with that.

[Canadane]

It doesn't take all that long to build up stacks of Greased Lightning, after all it is designed to be self-perpetuating. I do agree that having all your stacks fall off all at once is kinda lame. It should drop one stack at a time. That being said though, if you feel like keeping your stacks is worth risking getting overwhelmed then have fun with that.

Nah if a monk is running ahead of me to keep his stacks, more power to him. I'll probably even comm him in the end because he knows his job and knows its priorities.
It's also a sign that I'm going too slow as a tank lol.

Too many people think the tank has to pull, when in fact all the tank has to do is hold things and do damage to them while not dying.
Just because the tank isn't the first one to hit the thing doesn't mean the tank is unable to complete their role. Maximum damage while holding things and not dying.

[Joven]

It doesn't take all that long to build up stacks of Greased Lightning, after all it is designed to be self-perpetuating. I do agree that having all your stacks fall off all at once is kinda lame. It should drop one stack at a time. That being said though, if you feel like keeping your stacks is worth risking getting overwhelmed then have fun with that.

(Dang no edit on mobile....)
I wanted to add that even SAM's rotation is designed to speed into its buffs so you're good after only two rotations.