Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
To be honest though I do actually prefer this method of bulking up the mid cycle patch instead of blowing everything out the gate and then having a few empty months for people to unsub. If that helps keep people around and the DF more active in the mid cycle then it works out for me, I was never going to unsub anyway.
Except most of the patches still had spaced out some of the content to mini-patches, they rarely dropped everything in the initial major patch. 4.3 simply took it to the extreme.
Besides, people being subbed doesn't always result in the queues for anything other than the new stuff being more active than they'd normally be, during a content lull.

Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus
Their reasoning is pretty legit, like how much stuff would be lost in the shuffle, how many people would skip farming tsukuyomi weapons if you could also get empyrean weapons and pagos weapons starting from that same day. You can imagine people complaining about Trial weapons being obsolete on release even for non-raiders when we can just get the 5-slot Pagos weapon instead. If it's secretly a ploy to keep people subscribed though it's hard for me to be outraged about a company trying to be successful.
A problem with a very easy solution. Don't release them at the same time. You don't even have to look that far into the past to see this solution being used. 4.2 added Byakko to the game, along with a set of i355 weapons. The following 4.25 patch added Eureka: Anemos, along with the first set of i355 relic weapons. This added at least 5-6 weeks where the Byakko weapons were useful to farm for, longer for those who didn't feel like grinding their way to lvl 19-20 in Eureka for a weapon of the same iLvl.

Another solution that'd work with having a patch with both a Primal and Eureka (or HoH) is to just not have weapons dropping off the Primal. There's plenty of ARR primals that dropped accessories.

Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus
Now August is filled with Pagos + MHW + The Rising, and September sees the next major patch with Omega, Suzaku, etc. That's kind of nice having a steady flow of things to do right up to the month preceding the big patch.
While I can see Pagos and the MHW cross-over event keeping people busy, The Rising generally doesn't keep people busy for more than a day.

I personally prefer the pre-4.3 method of releasing content, especially for something like Eureka. Releasing Anemos roughly 5-6 weeks after the major patch left players with about 2 months to get what they'd want from it, before the release of the next major patch. Pagos about halves that amount of time, so there's more pressure to go through it before the interest drops with the release of new content.

It also means the relic weapon is only useful for about a month, before it's inevitably replaced by the higher iLvl primal weapon 4.4.

Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus
edit: eureka benefits from being splintered to its own patch. you don't want to come into eureka late because you were too busy doing MSQ and other content, only to find everyone has outleveled you and it's harder to get a group now. people who have less time to play per week are able to get the other content cleared before eureka is released and then have that window free to start farming at the same time as everyone else. I mean there are many sensible reasons for things to be separated, it's not just they don't want us to have toys...
The 4.2/4.25 way of releasing Eureka is already a solution to this issue.