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  1. #1
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 100

    All Greed on Alliance loot

    Just... why? If people want to get gear on their sub jobs they should run it on that class. Why should everyone suffer because some people don't want to run it on the class they are trying to get loot for? I really don't understand the choices they make sometimes and I hope they don't implement this.

    Edit:
    Hey all, It's good to see people showing support on their dislike with the greed only system.

    They plan on doing a Q&A for E3 and you are able to ask any question you want.

    If possible for anyone who comes to this thread could you like my post in the Q&A topic to do with the greed only system. I really think this could be a good opportunity to get an answer on this if they plan on changing it or not (they could be changing it in the upcoming maintenance but we know know yet). Also the more people that like it, the chances may increase for it being asked due to it showing it's a question people really want a answer to.

    E3 Q&A

    Edit 2:

    No more Greed only!

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Hello, Producer and Director Yoshi-P here. Patch 4.3 brought major changes to the Need/Greed system in alliance raids, and we received a lot of feedback from players around the world. After careful consideration, we have decided to revert those changes and bring back the Need option. This will take effect from the next hotfix and includes all alliance raids.

    We hope you continue to give us your feedback on your experiences in the world of FINAL FANTASY XIV!
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    Last edited by Remus; 06-07-2018 at 04:40 PM.

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    Lho Polaali
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    Yeah I'm opposed to. It's hard enough to get the gear piece you want if you want a specific one because of RNG, least of all if there are other people with the same role as you in the party (which is always the case for healers and tanks). But now we'll have to fight against the rest of the party too. It'll make the grind all the worse.
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Don't really care about that since personally i think they need to revise alliance raid loots to acomodate the new changes from savage lootings.
    However I can understand ppl that dislike this change and emphatise with this
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    Hott Cocoa
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    Spriggan
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    I'm against the idea as well, but alliance raid and gear has always been released in catch up patches used for catch up gear. I assume this is so players can catch up their alt jobs considering that alliance gear is almost always outdated but the halfway point of the patch. With a new expansion to Eureka, there's the possibility they might enhance the relic gear to 360 then 365 after that. Making Alliance gear greed only gives more reason to farm it I suppose? Just a theory.
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    Terrible idea, getting gear with need can take enough runs as is and with all greed it only gets worse
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    I don't think they should take away the Need option in Alliance Raids. Just add tokens you can trade for the gear like in the 8 man normal raids.
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    If they dont change anything else with this raid (like tokens) then this will be a horrible change. It will get harder for those that want specific glamour and it will be harder to get loot for your main job too, especially if you are tank or healer. Before if you do the hard job of tanking this or healing it you got a thanks in form of having nobody or just another person to roll against. Now anyone could roll on the tank and healer stuff..

    There is already so much other content to catch up and if you need to have other jobs geared up just go into this with that..
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Just... why? If people want to get gear on their sub jobs they should run it on that class. Why should everyone suffer because some people don't want to run it on the class they are trying to get loot for? I really don't understand the choices they make sometimes and I hope they don't implement this.
    I always pass on gear if I'm not actively seeking it. The raids do not let you have duplicate gear, they really should do a check when the duty is queued to see if the player has any gear for the raid (in the inventory, saddlebag, retainers) and pre-emptively disable the need and greed buttons.

    Otherwise, you should always be greed'ing on gear if you want it. Some gear rarely shows up, and tends to only show up when I'm not on that role and it's like "really? now it pops?"

    If they're going to do "all greed" they should also let players cross-trade the gear on the market (eg I have (class) foot gear, want to trade for (class) foot gear)
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    They really need to redesign alliance raids loots especially if they are lifting savage lockouts from all x.x8 patches
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    Last edited by Remedi; 04-14-2018 at 08:53 PM.

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    Athanasios Seiun
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    Better scramble and spam those raids for what you want now while you can. Of course this means you're going to have to go as all three roles if your glamour needs are across the board. Want the nifty respective mage bits from Dun Scaith? Hop on healer and caster and hope your co-healer doesn't want them/you're the only caster dps. Have that Collector's Edition Warrior of Light helm and you want the rest of the ensemble? Tank Labyrinth of the Ancients and hope rng likes you and drops them swiftly. ...speaking of which, I might as well follow my own advice and grab the pants and shoes from there. /shuffles toward the gallows
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