SUGGESTION: In-game Demolition and Reclamation Notifications

[Razla]

I know it's merely academic at this point, seeing as we can't go back in time and all, but I can't agree with this statement. Email (when it actually freaking works, get on that SE!) reaches both people who are subbed and those who are not. An in-game notice would only hit the subbed players who logged on during the time-frame. This setup would have really screwed over unsubbed players and those who just didn't log in, whereas the emails give everyone a fair chance.

Eek. Let me clarify this: I do not advocate scrapping email for in-game notifications - I think both are necessary.

Because this is a game, by default, major notifications about something happening to your character are supposed to be in-game at the bare minimum. Since there is the added complication of people unsubbing, the emails are necessary.

I was not saying they should have done in-game notifications to the exclusion of email - instead, why weren't the in-game notifications automatic/default along with the email? Since the bare minimum of notifications would be in-game, how did they skip from this straight to email?

When you take a step back, it sounds really bizarre for there to only be an outside-the-game notification for a major in-game event. This is why when my SO's MMO-playing coworkers heard about the incident, they said: "no notification on login? wtf?"

The lack of in-game notifications seems more like a missing regular feature rather than being an extra. Games (are supposed to) tell you in-game that something is happening to your character.

Like I said, I've no problem with an in-game notice. But there will still be people who miss it and still be people who will complain they weren't notified. Only way to make it 100% foolproof is if SE sends a rep to your front door to grab you by the shoulders and shout it into your face.

The problem is that there is no in-game notification at all, and as a game, it should have been a given/default if they were going to do notifications at all. This is a completely ordinary, regular thing that is currently missing.

One way to get around the "I didn't see it" is the pop-up they now do with KOs where you have to click and hold to confirm your response so you don't accidentally Return. And if you want to be extra sure, a nice big window with a caption in big red font. And you can't do anything until you close it.

[NotOliverB]

Where?

Don't know anything about this. This is also outside of the game.

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...981359611110f0
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...345f2bf4a16ef/
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/
Why does it matter if its outside of the game or not? The launcher sends you to the lodestone and contains important information. Your point is meaningless.

I had no idea there was a demolition timer in the menu. These past few months, I didn't have any reason to check the Timers menu because I have not been doing anything I needed to track. That said, you'd have go looking for it - that is not a notification or a warning. That's something you have to go looking for.

That's on you. Just because you want to be ignorant/uninformed doesn't mean the game should compensate for your lack of interest in something your purchased.

No. And here's why:

1) If a game is going to notify you about something happening to you in-game, the primary notification is going to be in-game BY DEFAULT. Take a step back, and consider something else. Let's say you are playing a game involved with defending fortresses. Instead of telling you in-game, while you are logged in, that the enemies are smashing Fortress 3 so that you can go defend it, the game sends you an email about it. That would be ludicrous.

I don't know if you read the content above, but my SO brought the demolition up with his MMO-playing coworkers. Here's what he messaged me: "first thing out of their mouths was basically, 'no notification on login? wtf?'

In this case, the primary and only notification (and we're talking straight up contacting you about it), is by email, which is OUTSIDE of the game.

2) The lack of dependability of email. As I brought up before, it could go to spam, it could be buried in a heavy load of incoming mail, or it could have never come through in the first place. One of my friends never got the email, and I have seen other people posting about similar experiences. That being said, why would the sole, actual notification be only by email (outside of the game) and not also upon logging in or even real-time in-game?

3) We get notifications about our stuff selling on the marketboard. Relatively minor and insignificant events. Why does it seem so unreasonable to get a pop-up notification about something major - i.e. that your house is going to or has been demolished?

Keep playing that ignorance card. If you haven't stepped inside a house for 45 days, you truly didn't need it.

[SendohJin]

Most demos are because someone isn't even logging in to play, not because they are playing stopped visiting their house. A log in message won't help those players.

It can help if the shared tenants get that notice.

If someone is logging in and their house still gets demo'd, then they weren't using the house in the first place and it should be freed up for someone who will use it.

My friend had this trigger cause they didn't go inside the house. They teleport to their own house and garden basically every day, they just didn't go inside for like 2 weeks.

[SendohJin]

The game tells you about the 45 days. Lodestone tells you about the 45 days. Your timers menu warns you. You get warnings through emails. Is that not enough?

Yes, it's not enough. I think my first post in this topic said what was enough and it's not all that much more.

[Elamys]

Wow, talk about a lot of people bagging on OP for a not-that-unreasonable request.

To see the timer in-game you have to open the menu and then go to the Estate tab separately, so you have to actually go and look for it. And that timer isn't always there; it actually doesn't appear until you are close to demolition, so you may think you're okay when you're not.

What is actually lost by having a little pop-up for someone whose house is in danger of demolition saying "hey, go to your house"? Well, a smug sense of superiority and the chance of a house becoming available for purchase from under someone who may have actually been using the garden (just not the house itself, like mentioned above).

I have also heard multiple stories of people not getting the e-mails. Considering that I usually don't get my purchase confirmation e-mails from Square for like 2 days, it doesn't seem that strange.

[Seeker_Eglade]

Every home owner needs to have a set routine to protect their house/houses. Mine is, every day I garden, and after I collect my seeds, plants, I go INTO my house to list them on MB, or craft. I do this every day for my alts, houses. If you hardcore raid and don't craft or garden, what I'd do is, right after your static raid is over, take 45secs and warp to your house, ENTER house, then log off inside.

Same here. With my house every day when I log in I am already there, check on my retainers inside the house. Then at the end of my play time, teleport back to LB and walk in. Might be a bit paranoid, but I don't want to lose my dream plot! LOL

[DrWho2010]

Shared tenants will also see the auto-demo notice on their timer page.

[Kurando]

I would enjoy getting notifications telling me on Mondays that I haven't maxed out my Mendacity for the week yet. After all I never get chance to gain any missed tomestones again until the limit is removed (several months later). Just as important as a demolition notification don't you think?

[InkstainedGwyn]

You know, I think what bothers me the most about all of the responses in this thread - and regarding the topic itself, I don't have an opinion one way or another - is that everyone is getting so incredibly hostile over a suggested message that will likely never even affect them.

If you're never going to lose your house because you're always checking on it, the pop-up/notification will never, ever affect you. You won't see it. So why are you getting so bent over the request? If it was a "days since entered" notif or whatever that popped up every time you logged in, I could see being bothered, but that's not what this is.

I know what the answers are going to be:

1) "OP should pay more attention"
2) "OP should stop being lazy"
3) "Clearly OP didn't care"
4) "You snooze you lose"
5) "I didn't get one, so you shouldn't either"

None of those reasons affect how anyone else's game plays beyond OP (unless you're coming at it from the viewpoint that "if people don't care about their house in the way I feel they should they should lose it so someone else can have it" and I think that's kind of shady so I'll leave it alone). So, beyond the idea of "I don't need it so you shouldn't either" and "why should life be any easier for others when it wasn't when I started", both of which are terrible ways to approach potential game design & improvement, why are so many of the responses so angry?

[einschwartz]

If SE can force achievement notice pop-up upon login (which nobody asked) on us, I see no harm getting a demolition notice as well. In fact, I'm purposely letting my timer run because I plan to get my gil back before transfer. Would be convenient to see upon login how many days I have left instead of digging through menus.