SUGGESTION: In-game Demolition and Reclamation Notifications

[Kurando]

1) If a game is going to notify you about something happening to you in-game, the primary notification is going to be in-game BY DEFAULT. Take a step back, and consider something else. Let's say you are playing a game involved with defending fortresses. Instead of telling you in-game, while you are logged in, that the enemies are smashing Fortress 3 so that you can go defend it, the game sends you an email about it. That would be ludicrous

Housing is pretty much cosmetic and is not required to play the game though, but by your argument maybe every single thing in the Timer menu should have in-game notifications. After all, they all contain something that happens in game.

[NotOliverB]

Where?

Don't know anything about this. This is also outside of the game.

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...981359611110f0
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...345f2bf4a16ef/
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/
Why does it matter if its outside of the game or not? The launcher sends you to the lodestone and contains important information. Your point is meaningless.

I had no idea there was a demolition timer in the menu. These past few months, I didn't have any reason to check the Timers menu because I have not been doing anything I needed to track. That said, you'd have go looking for it - that is not a notification or a warning. That's something you have to go looking for.

That's on you. Just because you want to be ignorant/uninformed doesn't mean the game should compensate for your lack of interest in something your purchased.

No. And here's why:

1) If a game is going to notify you about something happening to you in-game, the primary notification is going to be in-game BY DEFAULT. Take a step back, and consider something else. Let's say you are playing a game involved with defending fortresses. Instead of telling you in-game, while you are logged in, that the enemies are smashing Fortress 3 so that you can go defend it, the game sends you an email about it. That would be ludicrous.

I don't know if you read the content above, but my SO brought the demolition up with his MMO-playing coworkers. Here's what he messaged me: "first thing out of their mouths was basically, 'no notification on login? wtf?'

In this case, the primary and only notification (and we're talking straight up contacting you about it), is by email, which is OUTSIDE of the game.

2) The lack of dependability of email. As I brought up before, it could go to spam, it could be buried in a heavy load of incoming mail, or it could have never come through in the first place. One of my friends never got the email, and I have seen other people posting about similar experiences. That being said, why would the sole, actual notification be only by email (outside of the game) and not also upon logging in or even real-time in-game?

3) We get notifications about our stuff selling on the marketboard. Relatively minor and insignificant events. Why does it seem so unreasonable to get a pop-up notification about something major - i.e. that your house is going to or has been demolished?

Keep playing that ignorance card. If you haven't stepped inside a house for 45 days, you truly didn't need it.

[SendohJin]

The game tells you about the 45 days. Lodestone tells you about the 45 days. Your timers menu warns you. You get warnings through emails. Is that not enough?

Yes, it's not enough. I think my first post in this topic said what was enough and it's not all that much more.

[Kittypryde]

Every home owner needs to have a set routine to protect their house/houses. Mine is, every day I garden, and after I collect my seeds, plants, I go INTO my house to list them on MB, or craft. I do this every day for my alts, houses. If you hardcore raid and don't craft or garden, what I'd do is, right after your static raid is over, take 45secs and warp to your house, ENTER house, then log off inside.

[Seeker_Eglade]

Every home owner needs to have a set routine to protect their house/houses. Mine is, every day I garden, and after I collect my seeds, plants, I go INTO my house to list them on MB, or craft. I do this every day for my alts, houses. If you hardcore raid and don't craft or garden, what I'd do is, right after your static raid is over, take 45secs and warp to your house, ENTER house, then log off inside.

Same here. With my house every day when I log in I am already there, check on my retainers inside the house. Then at the end of my play time, teleport back to LB and walk in. Might be a bit paranoid, but I don't want to lose my dream plot! LOL

[Elamys]

Wow, talk about a lot of people bagging on OP for a not-that-unreasonable request.

To see the timer in-game you have to open the menu and then go to the Estate tab separately, so you have to actually go and look for it. And that timer isn't always there; it actually doesn't appear until you are close to demolition, so you may think you're okay when you're not.

What is actually lost by having a little pop-up for someone whose house is in danger of demolition saying "hey, go to your house"? Well, a smug sense of superiority and the chance of a house becoming available for purchase from under someone who may have actually been using the garden (just not the house itself, like mentioned above).

I have also heard multiple stories of people not getting the e-mails. Considering that I usually don't get my purchase confirmation e-mails from Square for like 2 days, it doesn't seem that strange.

[DrWho2010]

Shared tenants will also see the auto-demo notice on their timer page.

[Kurando]

I would enjoy getting notifications telling me on Mondays that I haven't maxed out my Mendacity for the week yet. After all I never get chance to gain any missed tomestones again until the limit is removed (several months later). Just as important as a demolition notification don't you think?

[InkstainedGwyn]

You know, I think what bothers me the most about all of the responses in this thread - and regarding the topic itself, I don't have an opinion one way or another - is that everyone is getting so incredibly hostile over a suggested message that will likely never even affect them.

If you're never going to lose your house because you're always checking on it, the pop-up/notification will never, ever affect you. You won't see it. So why are you getting so bent over the request? If it was a "days since entered" notif or whatever that popped up every time you logged in, I could see being bothered, but that's not what this is.

I know what the answers are going to be:

1) "OP should pay more attention"
2) "OP should stop being lazy"
3) "Clearly OP didn't care"
4) "You snooze you lose"
5) "I didn't get one, so you shouldn't either"

None of those reasons affect how anyone else's game plays beyond OP (unless you're coming at it from the viewpoint that "if people don't care about their house in the way I feel they should they should lose it so someone else can have it" and I think that's kind of shady so I'll leave it alone). So, beyond the idea of "I don't need it so you shouldn't either" and "why should life be any easier for others when it wasn't when I started", both of which are terrible ways to approach potential game design & improvement, why are so many of the responses so angry?

[EmeraldAres]

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I've noticed this trend of hostility and rejection towards new ideas across this entire forum. As someone who lurks from time to time but rarely posts, it amazes me the lengths people will go to rip apart a poster for a simple suggestion that more than likely won't be read by SE anyway. My conclusion is that most polite neutral/supportive players don't bother to post here because they are content or don't consider it to be a problem worth getting worked up over, mostly leaving the combative and hostile minority jumping into these kinds of threads to attack the OPs.

Guess I'll offer my thoughts since I decided to stick my head into this topic. I wouldn't mind seeing a simple in-game notification added, provided it can be turned off. I have a house myself. While I'm careful to enter it on a regular basis, putting up more safeguards against the demolition system wouldn't hurt.