Thread: Reconvene the Magic Council Please - Spell names in 5.0 please fix. [Request]

I was kind of disapointed when I knew that FFXIV didn't have the names with ra/ga/ja at the end.
It is also very strange when we see a boss basting Fire IV, with it being very different and wide AoE, when BLM Fire IV is single target.

I think that BLM's Fire IV should be Fire III, Fire II should be Fira, and Boss's Fire IV should be Firaja.

I mean, every other FF that I played was with ra/ga/ja to represent a different tier, They didn't need to change it.

Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

I was kind of disapointed when I knew that FFXIV didn't have the names with ra/ga/ja at the end.
It is also very strange when we see a boss basting Fire IV, with it being very different and wide AoE, when BLM Fire IV is single target.

I think that BLM's Fire IV should be Fire III, Fire II should be Fira, and Boss's Fire IV should be Firaja.

I mean, every other FF that I played was with ra/ga/ja to represent a different tier, They didn't need to change it.

Just play the game in german and you get your ra/ga/ka back!

I never quite understood why the english translation went for numbers while the german one kept the "normal" naming conventions with Feuer (Fire), Feura (Fire II), Feuga (Fire III) and Feuka (Fire IV) - same for Blizzard and Thunder. Really weird. Apparently the french version works with some sort of prefix like "Extra" or "Mega" instead of numbers aswell...

I would very much like to see II/III/IV replaced with -ra/-ga/-ja, but I don't think there's any need to have different naming systems based on which are AOE or not. This isn't FFXI. The fact that all four fire spells are fundamentally different from one another makes the suffixes more logical than numbered levels anyway, in my view.

Nah, we should go TRUE classic, and take it back to when spells had four-letter limits!

LOK2, SLEP, RUB, XXXX, AFIR, FADE - kudos to folks who never played the original Final Fantasy, if you can figure out what these spells did! (Heck, I'll even give you kudos if you still remember after nearly thirty years...)

Let's turn the magic system into a cryptological nightmare!

Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Nah, we should go TRUE classic, and take it back to when spells had four-letter limits!

LOK2, SLEP, RUB, XXXX, AFIR, FADE - kudos to folks who never played the original Final Fantasy, if you can figure out what these spells did! (Heck, I'll even give you kudos if you still remember after nearly thirty years...)

Let's turn the magic system into a cryptological nightmare!

LOK2 doesn't work due to a bug but is supposed to decrease enemy evasion, SLEP is sleep but all enemies wake up on the next turn due to a different bug, RUB is death (and doesn't work because death spells don't work in video games lol), XXXX is Power Word: Kill from D&D, so it always works provided the enemy has so few HP that you don't need to waste an 8th-level spell slot on them, AFIR protects the part from fire and does work, unless enemies cast it in which case it's bugged (sorry, WizVAMPs), and FADE is Holy. ... I may or may not have written multiple FF1 guides and host a website with those and others. (Also it's hilarious how buggy FF1 is on the NES. And every version actually, they still haven't fixed the crit rate bug... /sigh)

For anyone suggesting we use different names than the series has ever used, I strongly disagree. Final Fantasy games are very different from one another, parallels in spell naming and such is the throughline that makes it a coherent series. Similarly, for those who liked the numbered spells of the 8- and 16-bit games, keep in mind they always had suffixes in the original Japanese. And every numbered game in the series except 7 has at least one version with the correct spell names. (Well if you want to get technical, not 2 either, because 2 has a different system where spells each level up so "Fire 2" is actually a thing and Fira never is.)

I fart in the Magic Council's general direction. I've been using -ra/-ga/-ja and I don't intend to stop. (On a semi-related note I believe -gun has also been used in some games? Maybe KH?) Give us back those lovely suffixes please; I/II/III/IV/etc. are boring.

It's probably best not to go by FFXI's way of using suffixes anyway, since FFXIV's spell list isn't as big as FFXI's. If people really want to separate the AoE spells from the single target spells (to make it less confusing or whatever), why not rename the AoE spells? (with the exception of WHM/SCH spells... unless they get a fourth Aero/Miasma)

Fire II - Scorch, Blizzard II - Frost, and Thunder II/IV - Storm/Stormga (Thunder III will also be changed to Thundaga. If SE actually did this, then I'd also be fine with Thunder not being renamed to Bolt. Thunder and Storm).

That's just an idea. I'm fine with numbers, anyway.