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  1. #1
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    Dreamer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctus View Post
    so basically its safer to use a bot that notifies you when you get a tell or have been mentioned in chat/emote etc and save your thumb the exercise lol

    technically i'd still be watching netflix but i'd be safe when someone starting messaging me.

    they need to implement something where the window pops back up into the forefront if you receive a tell or something. that way bots would still be caught, but legit people watching netflix would realize they are being talked to.
    No, what they need to do is revamp crafting so that it's not mind numbingly boring. When nobody wants to play an integral part of the game because it's something monotonous, you have a serious problem and likely need to take the entire system back to concept. Forcing people to endure this nonsense is in no way conducive towards creating a fun play environment.

    That being said, do you really think the people using turbo controllers and high-end keyboards are going to worry about this when obvious bots have been reported for months with no action are still running about?
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    Windower please.
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    To be present in front of ones computer does not make the use of these automated action programs acceptable.
    And they want to prove it how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    And they want to prove it how?
    quite easily actualy

    they can time your entries, if all of them are the exact same timing down to the miliosecond, your using a program
    if you have your turbo button taped, itl obviously have a continuous stream of input wether or not it can actualy be used

    and then theres the easy test of just sending people a message to see if they are even there at all(im talking about you! people claiming to watch movies with 14 minimized), you are at your computer, but you are obviously not actualy there at all as far as the game is concerned

    its alot easier to prove then you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    quite easily actualy

    they can time your entries, if all of them are the exact same timing down to the miliosecond, your using a program
    if you have your turbo button taped, itl obviously have a continuous stream of input wether or not it can actualy be used
    And they time it how? Using a stopwatch? Not exact enough. Checking our input packets? Latency will make it as inexact.

    and then theres the easy test of just sending people a message to see if they are even there at all(im talking about you! people claiming to watch movies with 14 minimized), you are at your computer, but you are obviously not actualy there at all as far as the game is concerned

    its alot easier to prove then you think
    And in that case you can just respond. I quoted the part where they specifically said using automated functions of a keyboard/gamepad AND being present is also not allowed. There is no way they can prove that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    they can time your entries, if all of them are the exact same timing down to the miliosecond, your using a program
    Requires something on the client side though since the latency would randomly alter the timing. Somehow doubt they implemented such a feature. It would only work for the simplest form of automation.
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    Taping down the enter key? does that even work? I get once they make crafting two options and super dumb it down. But they did not make crafting interesting at the least and should at least say "sorry for driving you to turbo keying and botting", since honestly I did not bot craft nor turbo craft in other games, this game with its 4 windows before the craft, has driven me to insanity, my 45 wvr is going to sit there for a while until rmts stop farming karakul fleece. In general they effed up the one thing people bot the most just saying. Its not an excuse for people botting but SE should own up that their crap also stinks. No one with an honest to go life and less than 4 cats wants to sit there and spam enter. The way to fix this would be, make it so wait is more useful, I mean crafting by my own hand, I don't even wait through unstable elements. They make it HARD to fail crafts. If it were EASIER to fail crafts, people couldn't even bot. (well some could with advanced bots, but people couldn't turbo) I want a video of one of the devs personally leveling a craft 1-50 by hand, and farming the materials for it, like 3 camera's one on him, one on his hands, one on the screen. If he can do than I guess....we could try.


    And I've only considered turboing for synths that give no exp, can we get the autocraft for that, they talked about once maybe happening but probably never, hasty hand is meh.
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    Last edited by zaviermhigo; 02-09-2012 at 09:42 AM.

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    Sebastian Lumenheim
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    What about "automated" hardware? Would using this to press the Enter key be considered botting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by _pops View Post
    What about "automated" hardware? Would using this to press the Enter key be considered botting?
    Your machine is inferior, I have perfected it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    Your machine is inferior, I have perfected it.

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