The Burn

[Bright-Flower]

Pretty sure the 4.3 trial had Revolutions for phase 1, or a darker remix of it anyway.

[ChaoticCrimson]

Pretty sure the 4.3 trial had Revolutions for phase 1, or a darker remix of it anyway.

Nighbloom does use bits of the leitmotif, yes. I'd still like to actually have Revolutions proper at some point, it just seems like a waste to not add it to a pivotal battle like the others.

[Remedi]

It is idd odd since ARR had Bahamut with Answer and HW had Nidhogg with dragonsong in phase 1. You would expect Revolutions to have the same treatment, but we have only 1 patch left and that trial is going to be Seiryu or Kohryu.
Unless there's one more patch, but chances aren't great

[ObsidianFire]

ARR didn't have Answers in an MSQ trail though. Bahamut was the 8-man raid and back then the entire thing was tuned to Savage difficulty and there was no normal. So the majority of the player base didn't get to see it while it was relevent. For most of HW, the devs didn't acknowledge what happened in Binding Coil in the MSQ since some people still didn't know what had happened.

So there's precedent that Revolutions won't be in the MSQ necessarily. However, I don't see them doing it in the Four Lords trials either. It might just end up being a solo instance or they might go back to having two trials in a patch (one MSQ, one Four Lords).

[Remedi]

Not saying that it has to be in a MSQ, but it's odd they didn't use it yet.
The songs were used in places where it made sense, answers was used when bahamut destroyed the world as such it made sense for it to appear at the end of the calamity arc which was bahamut, in the same way the final steps of faith was the culmination of the dragonsong war and there it was dragonsong.

[Bright-Flower]

4.4 spoilers and possible 4.5 spoilers.

Elidibus and Zolus want to attack Ala Mhigo and I could see Revolutions playing if this happens. Granted, it probably would be in a solo instance and not a trial or raid fight, but it's possible we'll hear it in 4.5 regardless.

[Remedi]

I wonder though 4.5 seems to have too much to conclude by itself with trials.
We know that a Yojimbo fight is coming and is probably gonna be a trial fight this time and we are left with Seiryu and Khoryu to deal with not to mention this impending stuff.
Unless they want to compromise and simply have Seiryu+ Yojimbo as a trial and the rest as solo instance, but that would be shameful.
Maybe Seiryu can be a dungeon boss like genbu and only Kohryu be the trial, but really?
Mh dunno

[Bright-Flower]

I wonder though 4.5 seems to have too much to conclude by itself with trials.
We know that a Yojimbo fight is coming and is probably gonna be a trial fight this time and we are left with Seiryu and Khoryu to deal with not to mention this impending stuff.
Unless they want to compromise and simply have Seiryu+ Yojimbo as a trial and the rest as solo instance, but that would be shameful.
Maybe Seiryu can be a dungeon boss like genbu and only Kohryu be the trial, but really?
Mh dunno

I wouldn't be shocked if 4.5 had the fourth Lord as a trial and then the 'final' battle was a solo instance fight with the four lords aiding you. Fights with npc aid tend to work better in the solo instances, like I don't think the Warriors of Darkness fight would have worked as a trial for example.

The 4.5 dungeon could also play into the 4 lords story but if I had to guess I would think it will be used to help bridge into 5.0 just like Baelsar's Warll.

[Rocl]

There's always the slim possibility we'd get two trials in 4.5. Let's not forget Steps of Faith and Chrysalis were both technically under the 2.5 umbrella!

..I can dream, right? That's legal?

[Bright-Flower]

There's always the slim possibility we'd get two trials in 4.5. Let's not forget Steps of Faith and Chrysalis were both technically under the 2.5 umbrella!

..I can dream, right? That's legal?

It's possible. But I'm not counting on it.

I was confident that 3.5 part 2 would have a story trial where we deal with whatever ilberd summoned. (I thought at the time it would be Rhalgr and that it would be a final trial before SB just like Steps of Faith.) In the end I was wrong and it was Shinryu and we fought it at the end of 4.0.

If I were to bet money I would say the 4th Lord will be a trial in 3.5 and the final encounter will be a solo instance battle where we fight the sealed away baddie with the aid of Soroban and the Four Lords.

I would also guess that the dungeon will tie into the MSQ. Spoilers:

Probably dealing with the attack on ala mhigo or us pushing into Garlemald after it.

There might also be an extra trial but if we get one my money is on Yojimbo with what people have told me about the Hildebrand quests.