stop stripping tanks skills and abilities and adding them as role actions

[Megguido]

I'm talking about no cool down, it shouldn't still hit you as hard when your defense is 2k points above from the original gear and with tenacity higher from 4.1, 82k HP and Susano tank buster still hits me for 75% of a WAR HP, our defense is well over the beginning of 4.0. i use my CD's, but i wanted to see since my defense is over 5k from the 3k we started with in the beginning of 4.0 and it felt like the tenacity stat was worthless along with the defense stat. A CD helps alot, but when your rocking a higher ilvl, with high defense and tenacity then the base stat's should show it without a CD from older content.

I'll have to confirm that, but I don't think you have 3k defense at ilvl 310. Also, it's not that outdated content, and you litterally have no reason to not use a cooldown on tankbusters at lvl 70. You have more defensive, just use it instead of being lazy. Passively mitigating damage isn't a really fun gameplay imo.

[ArianeEwah]

[...]82k HP and Susano tank buster still hits me for 75% of a WAR HP[...]

Either Megguido is right, and your timing on cooldowns was off, or you suffered an additional auto attack right after TB hit you.

I am pretty sure, you wouldn't even lose 50% with iLvl 340 and Vengence+RI. Parties cleared that fight with old Alex/Shire Slaying accessories and iLvl 310 body gear, and they still survived TB even without Invul. They were ~40k HP or below, especially those with no VIT melds.

You just can't lose 75% of 82k HP on iLvl 367 with a CD (Rampart or Vengence/Shadow Wall/Sentinel), and no auto attack after. Get your Co-tank to voke earlier (pref. during TB cast).

[Megguido]

Either Megguido is right, and your timing on cooldowns was off, or you suffered an additional auto attack right after TB hit you.

I am pretty sure, you wouldn't even lose 50% with iLvl 340 and Vengence+RI. Parties cleared that fight with old Alex/Shire Slaying accessories and iLvl 310 body gear, and they still survived TB even without Invul. They were ~40k HP or below, especially those with no VIT melds.

You just can't lose 75% of 82k HP on iLvl 367 with a CD (Rampart or Vengence/Shadow Wall/Sentinel), and no auto attack after. Get your Co-tank to voke earlier (pref. during TB cast).

That or he's tanking with the slashing debuff that follows the previous tankbuster (well, on susano specifically).

[Ekimmak]

Either Megguido is right, and your timing on cooldowns was off, or you suffered an additional auto attack right after TB hit you.

I am pretty sure, you wouldn't even lose 50% with iLvl 340 and Vengence+RI. Parties cleared that fight with old Alex/Shire Slaying accessories and iLvl 310 body gear, and they still survived TB even without Invul. They were ~40k HP or below, especially those with no VIT melds.

You just can't lose 75% of 82k HP on iLvl 367 with a CD (Rampart or Vengence/Shadow Wall/Sentinel), and no auto attack after. Get your Co-tank to voke earlier (pref. during TB cast).

It's almost definitely an auto-attack. I figured out back in old A4S how physical/element resist debuffs work: they reduce the amount of defence that they respect. So after Susano's tankbuster, you're taking damage as if you've got zero armour on you at all.

[Xenosan]

In 5.0 Dark Mind will be a role action skill.

[Azerhan]

I just miss all the good old animation that we've lost with SB.
Scourge, Delirium, for exemple.
And I don't understand the point to delete the old DRK and the old WAR base skill for defence for using Rempart instead. The animation is really bad and fit for PLD, and it's an obligatory Cross Skill.
During the last part of HW, I was wondering if I will main tank for SB, but when I see what SE done to them, I've quickly changed my mind.
Now, tank is not a good horse to bet on.

[Fourbestintoner]

I will forever be pissed drk lost shadowskin for rampart and is now stuck with its lameass animation, all they had to do was make foresight the same 20% as them.
and leech level 32 instead of esuna on all healers.
Rampart, anticipation, low blow, reprisal were just excuses to guts drk because se hates drk.

[ArianeEwah]

With their introduced changes in 4.4 SE might consider bringing back old animations in the next expansion.

I just hope we wouldn't see any must-have abilities, but alternative ones in 5.0. Maybe even passive ones.
Something that will give us variety, not one-sidedness.
Originally, that was their intention with role skills.

[Aana]

OP, you missed the boat. They already announced opening the slots from 5 to 10 so you can equip every single cross skill at the same time in a few weeks. War will have their stun full time. Drk gets reprisal back full time. Everyone has everything all the time in a few weeks. This is quite the opposite of 'stripping' actions. More people than ever can use them soon.

[Azerhan]

With their introduced changes in 4.4 SE might consider bringing back old animations in the next expansion.

I just hope we wouldn't see any must-have abilities, but alternative ones in 5.0. Maybe even passive ones.
Something that will give us variety, not one-sidedness.
Originally, that was their intention with role skills.

I always wonder how can they have thought just one moment that Rempart, Provoke and Shirk could be unnecessary. They are just must have, it's not even a question. Almost the same for Reprisal (which is very powerful).