stop stripping tanks skills and abilities and adding them as role actions

[kobe-sabi]

Sorry if a bit out of topic about Tenacity, but if you still get hurt so much by Susano's tankbuster at ilvl 367, you're just not pressing your buttons in time. Even at ilvl 310, a Stormsplitter wasn't killing anoyone using a cooldown (Shadow Wall, Vengence, Sentinel...).

Also the difference in damage between Crit and Tenacity is kinda small, you can perform high levels of damage with full Tenacity melds. But the mitigation due to Tenacity is small as well (something like 5-8% more mitigation ?)

I'm talking about no cool down, it shouldn't still hit you as hard when your defense is 2k points above from the original gear and with tenacity higher from 4.1, 82k HP and Susano tank buster still hits me for 75% of a WAR HP, our defense is well over the beginning of 4.0. i use my CD's, but i wanted to see since my defense is over 5k from the 3k we started with in the beginning of 4.0 and it felt like the tenacity stat was worthless along with the defense stat. A CD helps alot, but when your rocking a higher ilvl, with high defense and tenacity then the base stat's should show it without a CD from older content.

[Megguido]

I'm talking about no cool down, it shouldn't still hit you as hard when your defense is 2k points above from the original gear and with tenacity higher from 4.1, 82k HP and Susano tank buster still hits me for 75% of a WAR HP, our defense is well over the beginning of 4.0. i use my CD's, but i wanted to see since my defense is over 5k from the 3k we started with in the beginning of 4.0 and it felt like the tenacity stat was worthless along with the defense stat. A CD helps alot, but when your rocking a higher ilvl, with high defense and tenacity then the base stat's should show it without a CD from older content.

I'll have to confirm that, but I don't think you have 3k defense at ilvl 310. Also, it's not that outdated content, and you litterally have no reason to not use a cooldown on tankbusters at lvl 70. You have more defensive, just use it instead of being lazy. Passively mitigating damage isn't a really fun gameplay imo.

[ArianeEwah]

[...]82k HP and Susano tank buster still hits me for 75% of a WAR HP[...]

Either Megguido is right, and your timing on cooldowns was off, or you suffered an additional auto attack right after TB hit you.

I am pretty sure, you wouldn't even lose 50% with iLvl 340 and Vengence+RI. Parties cleared that fight with old Alex/Shire Slaying accessories and iLvl 310 body gear, and they still survived TB even without Invul. They were ~40k HP or below, especially those with no VIT melds.

You just can't lose 75% of 82k HP on iLvl 367 with a CD (Rampart or Vengence/Shadow Wall/Sentinel), and no auto attack after. Get your Co-tank to voke earlier (pref. during TB cast).

[Megguido]

Either Megguido is right, and your timing on cooldowns was off, or you suffered an additional auto attack right after TB hit you.

I am pretty sure, you wouldn't even lose 50% with iLvl 340 and Vengence+RI. Parties cleared that fight with old Alex/Shire Slaying accessories and iLvl 310 body gear, and they still survived TB even without Invul. They were ~40k HP or below, especially those with no VIT melds.

You just can't lose 75% of 82k HP on iLvl 367 with a CD (Rampart or Vengence/Shadow Wall/Sentinel), and no auto attack after. Get your Co-tank to voke earlier (pref. during TB cast).

That or he's tanking with the slashing debuff that follows the previous tankbuster (well, on susano specifically).

[Ekimmak]

Either Megguido is right, and your timing on cooldowns was off, or you suffered an additional auto attack right after TB hit you.

I am pretty sure, you wouldn't even lose 50% with iLvl 340 and Vengence+RI. Parties cleared that fight with old Alex/Shire Slaying accessories and iLvl 310 body gear, and they still survived TB even without Invul. They were ~40k HP or below, especially those with no VIT melds.

You just can't lose 75% of 82k HP on iLvl 367 with a CD (Rampart or Vengence/Shadow Wall/Sentinel), and no auto attack after. Get your Co-tank to voke earlier (pref. during TB cast).

It's almost definitely an auto-attack. I figured out back in old A4S how physical/element resist debuffs work: they reduce the amount of defence that they respect. So after Susano's tankbuster, you're taking damage as if you've got zero armour on you at all.