Where is the "never before seen content"?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

"Shake it up" how? What are you suggesting that is reasonable, knowing the limitations of the game? FFXIV, like a lot of popular MMOs, is a "generalist" MMO - it has content that can appeal to many people. However, it means when you add content that appeases one group, the others think they are being left out. Things like perform appeals to some, but from your own wording, it doesn't appeal to you, so you think it's a wasted addition to the game. Am I correct?

Perform is a perfect example of poor appeasement. It's only intended for an incredibly niche audience, released in a patch where the entirety of its content was also niche. Casual players had one dungeon, Rabanastre and a beast tribe as content intended to last through the duration of 4.1. That is abysmal, hence why you saw frequent complaints of boredom. 4.3, currently, offers similarly less, though at least Heaven on High attracts a far less niche audience. Unfortunately, it's more than a little lackluster before you reach the higher floors. We shall see if Eureka alleviates things despite it taking forever and a day to actually release.

A general content focus is fine, in theory, but Stormblood as a whole simply has very little to offer unless you like virtually everything. And if we go by the unofficial censuses, the numbers demonstrate a clear lack of interest. Stormblood is seeing 3.1 levels of disinterest, which is staggering if one considers the state of the game back then. While these numbers are by no means definitive, it remains disconcerting all the same, especially as WoW enters is latest expansion. Meanwhile, FFXIV is likely to undergo a significant drought unless something surprising occurs in 4.5.

However, please keep in mind that the last time SE did want players asked in terms of difficulty and content, we obtained Gordias Savage. Those were dark times, indeed.

Contrary popular belief, Gordias Savage did not destroy the game, though it did severely impact the raid scene. Let's review what released between 3.0 to 3.2

Gordias
Thordan EX
Four dungeons
Void Ark
Lords of Verminion
Diadem

This spanned over eight months, the longest delay between updates since FFXIV's relaunch. Both major content updates were essentially DoA, thus casual players had literally nothing new to keep themselves occupied. Meanwhile, the devs openly acknowledged they undertoned Void Ark and severely overtuned Goridas Savage. Bear in mind, unlike any other tier ever released, Gordias was gear locked, making it impossible to clear until tome weapons were available. Even Ultimate didn't impose such a restriction. Had Gordias been properly tuned, it never would have been the monster it became. Furthermore, the game lacked key components which heavily impacted raid progression: cooldown resets and cross world PF. The former forced players to either pull with necessary abilities still on CD or wait several minutes in between (No wonder PLD was unpopular) while the latter made recruitment pools swallow at best. Hence why Gilgamesh ballooned.

It's entirely disingenuous to fault Gordias for the disaster of 3.1.

[Usho]

How quickly people forget about Final Fantasxy XIV 1.0. It's like this game didn't almost completely fail, got saved and follows a model that continues to prove to be successful.

EDIT:
Click the link and learn a bit of the history of the game.

It failed because the director at the time tried to make the game like a clone of XI, but didn't fully capture what made FFXI fun and exciting. You don't clone a game after another game, but instead get inspiration from it and model the game after it but in a more modern and convenient feel. 1.0 might not have been perfect, BUT it at least TRIED to be a game that players who enjoyed FFXI could enjoy. 1.0 had amazing music, nice backgrounds and leves felt fun compared to the meh we have now. That's the FFXIV I fell in love with! Not the Bland artifical feel that 2.0 onwards represents.


I will admit, Yoshi-Pees did save the game with 2.0, however, the story was bland as sh*t and felt really sluggish with no real feeling. Kinda like a copy paste of the old mixed with new but felt artificial. And 3.0 onwards followed the same formula Yoshi-Peeses set from 2.0 with no real diversity, no big changes for the overall experience and old content was repackaged as new but in reality it was just old sh*t disguised as new sh*t with a repetitive formula and lackluster progression and little to no world dynamics that makes exploration more exciting. That's not how to make a game.



And for you, Junsei, as well as the other white knights who consistently defend what the game has become and will continue to be, to say it proves successful shows that you are fine with the lackluster and repetitiveness and that you apparently play with a blindfold on. It's sad to me, but then again it's your opinion and unfortunately I have to accept that. If you are fine with what the game is and what it is continuing to be with no signs of change at all, then more power to you and the other white knights, but for me and many others, we deserve a game AND a director who will bring change to the game and make it more exciting and non predictable, and not some WoW clone, but it's own standalone game that is WORTHY of the title: Final Fantasy!




/2 cents

[Vstarstruck]

YoshiP talked a lot about making "content never before seen in a MMO" and used it as one of the reason we got less dungeons this expac. But here we are close to 4.4 and we still haven't seen it and as far I know it hasn't even be mentioned for quite some time.

Have I missed something or are we still waiting or this content?

I do not think it was ever seen before, reskining the original expansion twice while repeating a treadmill every 2 months? or so for years. I guess he meant that.

[Joven]

YoshiP talked a lot about making "content never before seen in a MMO" and used it as one of the reason we got less dungeons this expac. But here we are close to 4.4 and we still haven't seen it and as far I know it hasn't even be mentioned for quite some time.

Have I missed something or are we still waiting or this content?

Are you sure he said "never before seen" and not "never to be seen"?

[ko_]

Welcome to every video game ever. This has been said in sonic games, street fighter games, tera, wow, bns, gw2 the list goes on. Most companies play it safe cause who wants to lose over 80% of a working playerbase cause you wanted something untested. Every company does this to an extent.

[Vstarstruck]

Welcome to every video game ever. This has been said in sonic games, street fighter games, tera, wow, bns, gw2 the list goes on. Most companies play it safe cause who wants to lose over 80% of a working playerbase cause you wanted something untested. Every company does this to an extent.

Most people get that, the issue is "We are releasing something never been seen in a MMO" or whatever the claim is, and it is just a reskin what you did before, with nothing new about it. At some point it feels like this:
https://youtu.be/ddUrZlnr3NI?t=537
This is why over-hype is so dangerous. What is going to happen in the distant future if this becomes more common? over-hype after over-hype, after over-hype? It may lead to a new game crash if things keep getting worse and down this road.

[ko_]

Most people get that, the issue is "We are releasing something never been seen in a MMO" or whatever the claim is, and it is just a reskin what you did before, with nothing new about it. At some point it feels like this:
https://youtu.be/ddUrZlnr3NI?t=537
This is why over-hype is so dangerous. What is going to happen in the distant future if this becomes more common? over-hype after over-hype, after over-hype? It may lead to a new game crash if things keep getting worse and down this road.

That quote I cant comment on. He should not have said that honestly. PR speak is odd and misleading. It's also why I dont get hype cause nothing lives up to hype in my experience. But being a sonic fan you tend to learn quick to never hype anything. Honestly other than that I don't know what they could add. Cause the stuff they do take chances at fails. So it's a no win situation honestly.

[Vstarstruck]

That quote I cant comment on. He should not have said that honestly. PR speak is odd and misleading. It's also why I dont get hype cause nothing lives up to hype in my experience. But being a sonic fan you tend to learn quick to never hype anything. Honestly other than that I don't know what they could add. Cause the stuff they do take chances at fails. So it's a no win situation honestly.

That is the point of that part of my post, yes. If you are going to say something like that you better be SURE it can be delivered, otherwise you are doing more harm then helping, like the vid points out that I linked there.

[hynaku]

Might be guys wearing bunny outfit. New seen that before it was added.

[axejosereyes]

i think was the BARD play instrument thing, that thing is kinda unique...