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    Strykr512's Avatar
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    Strykr Edgelord
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 70

    Stat priority for a red mage

    hello everyone! I have just made a red mage but i'm not very knowledgeable on casters when it comes to stat priority, other than intelligence, and i'm not finding any recent guides on that. I would love some tips on building the red mage so i can be as proficient as possible. Thanks in advanced!
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    Mchappy's Avatar
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    Mick Gaoxing
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Direct Hit > Crit > Determination
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Main stat over sub stat, weapon dmg over Int,

    WD > Int > DH > Crit, > Det
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    TelosNox's Avatar
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    Liandrin Saruni
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    Shiva
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Why should DH which has diminishing returns be better than CRIT?
    Is is because the current tiers gear is so bad, that you can never stack enough DH and CRIT to get CRIT better?
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    Jukebox12's Avatar
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    Juke Fm
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    It is crit>dh=>det>as who ever says it dh then crit are lying. The stats I put are from the balance discord
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Dh > crit was when we couldn't reach a certain threshold of crit (around 2000 if I'm not wrong)

    This cab easily be exceeded atm so it's definitely crit > dh
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    DH>crit until DH+crit>3500 last I looked, then its crit>DH
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    It is what you said Dual, However Crit beats Det at a relatively low value, around 1600 iirc.
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    DH>crit until DH+crit>3500 last I looked, then its crit>DH
    This is a bad early SB meme that was misunderstood and needs to die. The value of Crit vs DH depends entirely on the stats available on the gear, not some arbitrary 3500 limit.
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    Minati Illu
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    DH>crit until DH+crit>3500 last I looked, then its crit>DH
    People made a google sheet with the different stat tiers, and by how much it boosts damage: Nemekh's spreadsheet

    Direct Hit is a linear stat. Every 100 DH gives about 0.65% damage.
    Crit is a non-linear stat. 100 Crit gives more or less depending on how much crit you already have. And this tier we can reach high amounts of crit (more than 2000).

    For example, at 1500 Crit and 1500 DH (which is totally doable as of now), every single point of Crit gives more damage than DH. Then, why focus on DH ?

    I'm not a RDM expert, but I'd say focus on Crit > DH > DET > SpS.
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