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    Aerilon's Avatar
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    Aerilon Asiel
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 90

    What Happened to Customization & Specialization?

    With the extension of being able to 10 role actions, Square has practically removed every aspect of character customization from the game. Every Summoner is the same as every other Summoner, every Paladin is the same as every other Paladin. Your character has no uniqueness - aside from glamour, of course.

    I suppose one could argue that the Job System is the customization, but that seems like a cop-out to me. One of the best things about all FF games has always been building your character into unique and specialized roles through specialization trees such as the sphere grid - or the materia system - but in FFXIV - there is no specialization. Every RMD runs the same gear, and even gear variance really only SLIGHTLY effects DPS - every RDM runs the same materia, and now every RDM will run the same role actions. Even FFXI has infinitely more customization possibilities because of the sub-job system.

    Everyone will be the same cookie-cutter job at this point. Its really disappointing.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Customisation in the form of additional abilities is very much a case of the illusion of choice. There's quite a few abilities that are a 'must have' and are objectively much better than their counterparts, so by allowing everybody to access the entire list the overall game is more balanced.

    In-depth customisation for abilities works much better in single player games rather than in multi-player games where the expectation is going to be to use the 'best' abilities for the sake of efficiency.
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    To me the role actions felt more like a chore than actual customization. Some of them were useless in certain situations so everyone brought mostly the same set anyway. So you would just end up fiddling with them depending on the fight but you would just end up using the same ones for specific fights and then feel bad when you forgot to equip interject for O7S to silence Ultros, forgetting Surecast for knockbacks and both Healers in O4N forgetting Esuna so no doom cleanse and two people die off the bat.

    Anyways it is a boon for HoH since most CCs work in there at some capacity.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 07-17-2018 at 10:01 AM.

  4. #4
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    To me the role actions felt more like a chore than actual customization. Some of them were useless in certain situations so everyone brought mostly the same set anyway. So you would just end up fiddling with them depending on the fight but you would just end up using the same ones for specific fights and then feel bad when you forgot to equip interject for O7S to silence Ultros or forgetting Surecast for knockbacks.
    Pretty much this. Our PLD forgets it occasionally, and its pretty much just a wipe and reset at that point.

    So many of the abilities are situational its a pain to swap them out, and it will be handy to be able to put goad on a hotbar for occasional use.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 07-17-2018 at 10:02 AM.

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    ObsidianFire's Avatar
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    Kharagal Mierqid
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I am so happy I will be able to change my "Boss Role Actions" and "Dungeon Role Actions" swap macros so that it's just shuffling actions around my hot bars. Currently they have to turn different Role Actions on and off and you can't do that if any of the Role Actions are on Cool Down.

    This is certainly a band-aid fix that I expect them to look at more later. As far as band-aid fixes go, it's one of the better ones that at least addresses the problem enough that it doesn't feel so bad.
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    PandaMonium's Avatar
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    Panda E'monium
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    No more Protect/Esuna macro! It's so annoying to get locked out of Esuna because someone ninja pulled while you are casting Protect...
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    Godric Light
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    I am not sure if we have been playing the same game.
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 90
    Bold of you to assume everyone plays at the same skill level. I assure you, what skills/abilities people have at their disposal will not affect the unique experiences each person will bring.
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    Player AppleJinx's Avatar
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    Apple Jinx
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    You actually consider role actions a form of customization? Oh boy. Don't worry no one will ever know which role actions you have on unless you tell them so you can always pretend you are unique
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    Hamada's Avatar
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    Aya Hamada
    World
    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Customization & Specialization is a nice idea but the current system is an illusion of choice. If they cannot design it properly get rid of it completely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerilon View Post
    Everyone will be the same cookie-cutter job at this point. Its really disappointing.
    Been that way since ARR, where have you been?
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