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  1. #41
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    Been busy lately so I'll read all the posts I have missed and throw some more of my input in soon.
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  2. #42
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittypryde View Post
    That's how it is now and has always been; one FC can ONLY own one FC house. If you are referring to the 4-5 letter FC tags, you can use tags as many times as you want. There could be ten totally legit different FCs , each with 100 members, and each with different names, that all use the same tag, like ..I don't know....REGAL, or OMEGA....
    If you click on a few FC houses with the exact same 4-5letter tag, and actually look at their FC name, I bet you 100m Gil, they will NOT be the same FC.
    I believe what MsQi is getting at is untying the house from the leader's account and only have the object tied to whatever unique token is used to identify the FC itself. Not a bad idea and would simplify the ownership rules. Accounts would only be tied to personal housing and FC's to FC housing.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittypryde View Post
    That's how it is now and has always been; one FC can ONLY own one FC house. If you are referring to the 4-5 letter FC tags, you can use tags as many times as you want. There could be ten totally legit different FCs , each with 100 members, and each with different names, that all use the same tag, like ..I don't know....REGAL, or OMEGA....
    If you click on a few FC houses with the exact same 4-5letter tag, and actually look at their FC name, I bet you 100m Gil, they will NOT be the same FC.
    Every example we've seen of an FC with the same tag owning a bunch of houses has been the same FC as admitted so I'm not really buying that. We've literally got one guy who's proud of it in this thread.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Every example we've seen of an FC with the same tag owning a bunch of houses has been the same FC as admitted so I'm not really buying that. We've literally got one guy who's proud of it in this thread.
    How can you not believe what they've said? That's exactly what the game allows. 1 house per FC. In my case, 22 FCs for 22 FC houses.
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  5. #45
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotOliverB View Post
    How can you not believe what they've said? That's exactly what the game allows. 1 house per FC. In my case, 22 FCs for 22 FC houses.
    I think you guys are talking past eachother. Elamys means it is the almost always the same person or persons (i.e. a single account holder) with multiple characters holding multiple FCs, not one FC with multiple houses. I'm pretty sure you already knew that though, and were just being pedantic because you were trying to make the point that you didn't technically break any rules, which you didn't. I do feel it's worth pointing out that SE has tried, granted unsuccessfully, to curb single account holders using shell FCs to hold multiple houses across their FCs.

    On topic, I personally like Dustytome's very simple, very effective suggestion:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Just have it run the function that checks to see if a person would qualify to purchase an fc house before leadership is passed on. If they don't pass the check, leadership can't be passed on to them and if no person qualifying for leadership is left in the fc, the plot no longer belongs to that fc.
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    Last edited by Rymm; 07-23-2018 at 02:19 PM.

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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I think you guys are talking past eachother. Elamys means it is the almost always the same person or persons (i.e. a single account holder) with multiple characters holding multiple FCs, not one FC with multiple houses. I'm pretty sure you already knew that though, and were just being pedantic because you were trying to make the point that you didn't technically break any rules, which you didn't. I do feel it's worth pointing out that SE has tried, granted unsuccessfully, to curb exactly what you apparently did to get your 22 houses.

    On topic, I personally like Dustytome's very simple, very effective suggestion:
    I know exactly what they were trying to say. I was just pointing out that FCs are separate entities, regardless of their stance on what is acceptable and what isn't. Bump that to 23 as of a minute ago

    Also, Dustys' suggestion is very easily bypassed. I mean... deleted characters still count towards the total amount of members
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotOliverB View Post
    Also, Dustys' suggestion is very easily bypassed. I mean... deleted characters still count towards the total amount of members
    I'm not sure how that would enable a workaround, unless you are saying that a deleted character can still hold the leader position of an FC. If that's the case, that sounds like a bug that needs addressed regardless of the housing situation.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotOliverB View Post
    I was just pointing out that FCs are separate entities, regardless of their stance on what is acceptable and what isn't. Bump that to 23 as of a minute ago
    Different chapters of the same organization are still the same organization.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I'm not sure how that would enable a workaround, unless you are saying that a deleted character can still hold the leader position of an FC. If that's the case, that sounds like a bug that needs addressed regardless of the housing situation.
    How far does the rabbit hole go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Different chapters of the same organization are still the same organization.
    Too bad the rules don't agree with your logic. Tragic.
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  10. #50
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    Kittypryde Kujata
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    The real problem is the severe lack of good Gil sinks besides housing. As for me, even half assed crafting has made me 10-20x the Gil that one large mansion costs. What do we spend gil on besides houses? Legit not trying to brag. There are no real good Gil sinks besides houses. Max Gil owners who don't have multiple houses will just give up on this game. One of my good friends has well over max Gil, with one fc large and a personal large. If SE wants to keep them playing this game, (and there are a ton of them), they need more Gil sinks. More 20m mounts, more expandable apts to mansion size, more glams from npcs etc.
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    Last edited by Kittypryde; 07-23-2018 at 03:16 PM.

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