Any point to bringing a healer in Rathalos EX?

[KDSilver]

This content has not been developped with only how fights FFXIV works in general.
Besides, they also mentionned that they were afraid that if the healer dies (since they would be alone), it would be the end (outside of situation where you'd have a smn or a rdm).

Bring every comp you want it doesn't really matter.
This allows to have a new approach of a battle in FFXIV outside of dungeons and classic extreme fights.

I think it's great, we needeed something new.

[Ilenya]

-Healing magic nerfed for fight.
-No aggro tables.

How long until some DPS starts blaming healers and tanks for them dying because they didn't dodge?

[Duskane]

-Healing magic nerfed for fight.
-No aggro tables.

How long until some DPS starts blaming healers and tanks for them dying because they didn't dodge?

They can heal themselves there is a potion duty action like Vril in lackshimi or gravity in o2/s


If you want to play healer just be healer
Its going by MH philosophy where there are no roles you're just fighting a monster yes monster hunter has some cases of support but everyone still should be hitting the monster and not corner horning or spamming life powder.
Healer utility still be nice shield,Cards and rathalos might even give players fireblight and esuna might be needed.

[Ilenya]

They can heal themselves there is a potion duty action like Vril in lackshimi or gravity in o2/s

I...I know. It's why I made the comment.

Because some DPS will still blame the healers.

[Tint]

Healer utility still be nice shield,Cards and rathalos might even give players fireblight and esuna might be needed.

Esuna maybe... Cards are only an AST thing, what's with WHM and SCH? and shields are based on healing. no healing means no shields. okay WHM's shield is based on max HP, but it has a cooldown. DRK's TBN will do the job better, while he also does more damage and survives longer than a healer.

[Ceasaria]

For the first clear, I think you would want to bring a healer just in case and to see if it could do it without him.

[Mikita]

Hi everyone. This thread has been dormant for a few weeks, but I thought I'd ask here instead of creating a new thread just for my question.

Now that people are doing Rathalos EX, do you think there is any need to have a healer?

I have tried WHM and then AST with learning parties and still haven't cleared it.

Between watching the party list for cures and Esuna, chasing after people who go too far, and keeping an eye on Rathalos to dodge with very short reaction times, I'm usually the one that dies 2 or 3 times causing a reset.

I want to clear this fight, but it's so frustrating as a healer that I am ready to give up and go as DPS instead.

[supaiku]

Hi everyone. This thread has been dormant for a few weeks, but I thought I'd ask here instead of creating a new thread just for my question.

Now that people are doing Rathalos EX, do you think there is any need to have a healer?

I have tried WHM and then AST with learning parties and still haven't cleared it.

Between watching the party list for cures and Esuna, chasing after people who go too far, and keeping an eye on Rathalos to dodge with very short reaction times, I'm usually the one that dies 2 or 3 times causing a reset.

I want to clear this fight, but it's so frustrating as a healer that I am ready to give up and go as DPS instead.

It's easier if you go in as heal with 3 tanks, because even when they mess up, they will survive unlike a dps. They can also take the stack mark alone, so you only have to use esuna on one person.
If you end up with the standard comp, never let more than 2 people stack. Stack mark + tank, that is more than enough to surive. I have seen groups where all 4 people thought they had to stack together - that's a waste of potions and makes dispeling the fire debuffs unnecessary difficult. Also don't stand far away from Rathalos, staying behind him is the safer place. If he turns in your direction, run immediately. Same goes for the dps. Als tell the dps to not use their full rotations when he is flying, spamming an gcd spell/action is more efficient, as this is what takes Rathalos down - not the damage dealt.

[Mikita]

It's easier if you go in as heal with 3 tanks, because even when they mess up, they will survive unlike a dps. They can also take the stack mark alone, so you only have to use esuna on one person.
If you end up with the standard comp, never let more than 2 people stack. Stack mark + tank, that is more than enough to surive. I have seen groups where all 4 people thought they had to stack together - that's a waste of potions and makes dispeling the fire debuffs unnecessary difficult. Also don't stand far away from Rathalos, staying behind him is the safer place. If he turns in your direction, run immediately. Same goes for the dps. Als tell the dps to not use their full rotations when he is flying, spamming an gcd spell/action is more efficient, as this is what takes Rathalos down - not the damage dealt.

Thank you! Very helpful. ^^

[Kidria]

Honestly seems like the go-to party config that I can see in PF is x3 tanks and a healer for esuna. If not that, than x4 tanks. It's actually the DPS getting ditched lmao