Will they ever add melee DPS without positional attacks?

[AlexRaines]

Its funny how people say "go play warrior" (and also getting lot of likes too). Either they are trolling or.... dunno what else to say?

I get it, lot of people like the positional gameplay... but do we really need to have it in every single melee DPS job?? People who like positional attacks on melee already have lots of job to chose from...

Honestly, without positional, melee dps is really boring. I was actually amazed when I started playing a ranged dps because there are so many more mechanics that they have to deal with than melee does. As an example, in ifrit ultimate, the ranged have to position the eruptions in the right places while maintaining their damage output. Melee during that phase need to keep attacking things.

This is actually pretty widespread throughout so many fights. While positional can be annoying, they actually allow melee to do something rather than simply standing behind the boss the entire time hitting the same rotation over and over again.

[Reckion]

I mean, there are only 4 melee dps jobs. And those 4 have different dependency on positionals and boost your gameplay differently. Seeing that it makes the gameplay less boring...

I don't see how are positionals something that really upsets someone. There are 5 other dps jobs that don't require positionals, if it's that bad.

[Tint]

I mean, there are only 4 melee dps jobs. And those 4 have different dependency on positionals and boost your gameplay differently. Seeing that it makes the gameplay less boring...

I don't see how are positionals something that really upsets someone. There are 5 other dps jobs that don't require positionals, if it's that bad.

and i don't see how a new melee job without positionals upsets someone. there are 4 melee jobs with positionals to choose from - that new job doesn't take the positionals away from them.

[Ryaz]

and i don't see how a new melee job without positionals upsets someone. there are 4 melee jobs with positionals to choose from - that new job doesn't take the positionals away from them.

It's more of a skill thing. It's one of those things they use to separate a good player from a great player. If a person can just mindlessly attack an enemy from any position and do the same damage as someone who has to mind their positionals, then people will have an issue with that. There would have to be some other factor in play to create that skill gap.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

First that would be boring as all hell, really. What makes melee so fun is how active it is.

Second. It'll probably be super broken, since any bosses that move a lot ( O7 and O8) won't have any effect on them, but it will for everyone else, and multiple missed positional overtime does add up.
They would have to lower their damage quite a bit for this to work.

[Lambdafish]

Second. It'll probably be super broken, since any bosses that move a lot ( O7 and O8) won't have any effect on them, but it will for everyone else, and multiple missed positional overtime does add up.
They would have to lower their damage quite a bit for this to work.

Under this logic, BLM is unplayable because SMN and RDM have mobility

[mosaicex]

Under this logic, BLM is unplayable because SMN and RDM have mobility

And BLM has Triplecast (60s), Swiftcast (60s), Sharpcast (60s), Aetherial Manipulation (10(!)s), F3/T3 proc, Between the Line (3s)
They DO have mobility, they just have to work harder for it.

[Lambdafish]

And BLM has Triplecast (60s), Swiftcast (60s), Sharpcast (60s), Aetherial Manipulation (10(!)s), F3/T3 proc, Between the Line (3s)
They DO have mobility, they just have to work harder for it.

So have a melee job that doesn't have positionals, but is restricted in its mobility in other ways. The argument being made is that positionals are needed to make melee jobs fun and balanced, when there are so many design ideas that could replace it to create a truly unique melee job that is just as rewarding.

[mosaicex]

So have a melee job that doesn't have positionals, but is restricted in its mobility in other ways

Multiple people already mentioned this (especially those who argued in favor of positionals, so it's not their job to come up with alternatives).
So why don't you be the hero and come up with some actual idea instead of just empty suggestion? Just for kicks, not like SE will listen to suggestions like these, especially from western playerbase.
Cast time maybe? Because people really love it right? Not to mention those preemptive bitching during SAM reveal that it might be melee with cast time (and it is, as watered down as it was)

[Grimoire-M]

Melee already have plenty of incentive to be next to the boss. It's called melee range for a reason. I'd like to see a melee class that abandons positional GCDs and combos altogether, just to see what SE does to change it up. DRG and MNK are the only classes where it feels like it makes sense that there are positionals on the class. MNK is the fast positional class and DRG is the slow one. NIN and SAM both could survive without it.

That isn't to say I don't want to see a melee class without positional requirements, but put rear/flank bonuses in Cooldowns/buffs or make it distance based instead. You can do more than just dancing on the same corner.

Also the number of omnidirectional bosses makes me question why we have it at all still.