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  1. #21
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    There's someone on Cactaur pulling the exact same stunt that the player the TC mentioned is, so they're at very least running the same botting script, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was actually the same individual as this type of script doesn't seem to be publicly available judging from how few people use it. While undercutting on its own isn't anything suspicious, the frequency and amount of time this individual spends doing it (They remain online for days straight at times) is what makes it obvious.

    It's gotten extremely frustrating to try to sell anything now as they practically control the market for crafted gear, while multiple other botters are fighting over the infusion/food market which has been subject to so much price degradation as a result of their market flooding that it scarcely seems worth the time investment to craft for gil from the perspective of a legitimate player.

    As far as the other types of bots go, they've also become a lot more numerous to the point where I've seen parties of people from the same FC going around zones in a conga line completing FATEs and there's also been a rise in "casual" botters who'll spend maybe a day bot farming something on their main account then stop for a long while until they actually need more of the stuff.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 07-16-2018 at 05:46 PM.

  2. #22
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    As far as the other types of bots go, they've also become a lot more numerous to the point where I've seen parties of people from the same FC going around zones in a conga line completing FATEs and there's also been a rise in "casual" botters who'll spend maybe a day bot farming something on their main account then stop for a long while until they actually need more of the stuff.
    On one server on Primal, and one server on Aether. The bots that are doing the gil farming all stand in the exact same place (behind the FC guild chest in Gridania and Ul'dah.) They're of the same quantity and naming scheme. There is no way that SE staff doesn't know they're there.

    The Lodestone actually reveals all these bots every time they create a button-mash guild name.

    More to the point, the ads for RMT are showing up at the top of google searches.

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  3. #23
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    Justuas Galka
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    More to the point, the ads for RMT are showing up at the top of google searches.

    Good job Google...
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  4. #24
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    IMO they should have people that will go undercover as soon as they got records. I mean if a certain amount of people report someone for obvious botting, why not sent someone there (heck they can even turn invisible) to watch them.

    But yeah why even bother if they wont to something against those that bots for months and nothing is done about it..
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  5. #25
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    IMO they should have people that will go undercover as soon as they got records. I mean if a certain amount of people report someone for obvious botting, why not sent someone there (heck they can even turn invisible) to watch them.

    But yeah why even bother if they wont to something against those that bots for months and nothing is done about it..
    Because the bots can see when GM's appear because it's info sent in the network stream. They have to appear as a normal player.
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  6. #26
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    Alijana Tumet
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    The thing annoys me the most is the fact that they seemingly don't care how many reports are being made for the same individual if they can't find any chat log evidence that would incriminate them. Do they seriously expect that everyone who bots is going to admit to it at some point?

    They also supposedly have tools they use to detect cheaters, but they clearly aren't working well if that's the case.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 07-16-2018 at 07:33 PM.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Because the bots can see when GM's appear because it's info sent in the network stream. They have to appear as a normal player.
    Well let them make normal characters thus they wont notice that its GM in disguise.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  8. #28
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    MrKusakabe's Avatar
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    Zedek Kusakabe
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Unless you can provide proof that he is actually botting, the player in question is not cheating. Certainly being amoral, but not cheating.
    [...]
    If it walks like a duck, if it quaks like a duck,...
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  9. #29
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    Gurney Halleck
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    Make it like the AH in 11. You only would see the prices of what people paid for the item, not what is being asked for. Fun game was to try and buy high end item for 1 gil. Every once in a great while you might get a high end item for 1 gil.
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  10. #30
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Why not play the same game... push his prices to the lowest possible... just undercut him over and over until it's dirt cheap then buy him out and resell for the original price...
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