Character Creation Has A Race Problem

[MaloraYuki]

I'm not sure if you're being intentionally obtuse, but I think it's pretty obvious that SE has taken some pretty big inspiration from Japan as well as Eastern culture in general with Stomblood. Of course the game has it's own lore, but then we see Japanese housing structures all over, kimonos, Vietnamese clothing / food options, and I'm sure plenty of other items I'm neglecting to mention.

Inspiration is inspiration in the end it’s a game with seperate lore from IRL. You can not look at kugane and say it is Japan it doesn’t work that way. How do you look at dreads in a game and say that’s black? It’s a game. And all this talk of what a black face looks like. What does a black face look like? White face? Asian face? Ect... because I don’t know. I have not seen people IRL who have the same face or even facial features people are defining as black I have seen on people of other races. What’s wrong with posting a suggestion thread like everyone else and not screaming race? It has nothing to do with race it’s just a limited character creation. Post a picture of the hairstyles and say “I would love to see something like this added” or ask for fuller lips in character creator. Don’t start a race war about it for no reason when it’s 100% unneeded to bring that into a game that doesn’t have IRL races. But I guess you do you. Enjoy the GAME!

Ps. I feel the heavy Asian culture references in this game might have to do with the fact it’s a Japanese game. I could be wrong but seems pretty common when a game comes from a specific area, you copy what you know.

[Melichoir]

Inspiration is inspiration in the end it’s a game with seperate lore from IRL. You can not look at kugane and say it is Japan it doesn’t work that way.

Ill just reiterate a point I made way earlier in this thread:

"All 'races' in FFXIV are mix and matches of features in real world races with an anime slant, and are not designed to be a direct representation of any single particular race. You can pretty much get this by actually looking at the stock facial features (ignore skin color for the moment) of the races and even with tweaking, you cant get a 1:1 "this is an European/Asian/African/Etc" person. You can get close, but things will be slightly off or 'mismatched'. Now, throw in the fact that virtually all races can come in the almost entire gamut of skin colors, and you can end up with interesting combinations as a result. You can drive this point home by looking at teh lore of all the races. You cant really pin it to any specific ethnicity/nationality. Theyre all mixes of a few cultural elements from different societies."

When talking about places in this game, theyre not "This is Japan, This Is China, This is Germany, This is England, This is Ethiopia, This is Saudi Arabia". Theyre mix and matches of all sorts of things and places to create a new look and feel, as mentioned in the quoted post. Its the same for the 'races.' There is no 1:1 here, and there isnt supposed to be.

[MaloraYuki]

Ill just reiterate a point I made way earlier in this thread:

"All 'races' in FFXIV are mix and matches of features in real world races with an anime slant, and are not designed to be a direct representation of any single particular race. You can pretty much get this by actually looking at the stock facial features (ignore skin color for the moment) of the races and even with tweaking, you cant get a 1:1 "this is an European/Asian/African/Etc" person. You can get close, but things will be slightly off or 'mismatched'. Now, throw in the fact that virtually all races can come in the almost entire gamut of skin colors, and you can end up with interesting combinations as a result. You can drive this point home by looking at teh lore of all the races. You cant really pin it to any specific ethnicity/nationality. Theyre all mixes of a few cultural elements from different societies."

When talking about places in this game, theyre not "This is Japan, This Is China, This is Germany, This is England, This is Ethiopia, This is Saudi Arabia". Theyre mix and matches of all sorts of things and places to create a new look and feel, as mentioned in the quoted post. Its the same for the 'races.' There is no 1:1 here, and there isnt supposed to be.

Well yeah I mean kind of my point it’s a game with different lore. Inspiration is different from IRL. As I said you can’t look at kugane and say that’s Japan because it’s not. And you are right it isn’t suppose to be. Can’t look at a highlander and say they are meant to be black because they aren’t suppose to be. Technically they can be any color. Lyse, yda, and minfillia are highlanders by lore, they are on the wrong model but they are highlanders with a lighter skin tone. The facial features and hairstyles people want just need to be added with the long lists of requests from everyone else. Or I mean if you have artistic talent enter contests.