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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    "the character creation only caters to one demographic for the most part, and that's white."
    "the character creator severely lacks in this game. Could we see improvements—perhaps fuller lips or larger noses? They really lack a variety in the presets."

    I wonder how the conversation would have went had the second option been the OP's initial post~
    You're funny. Because that was her initial post. Now you're just making her out to be a villain.

    Her post piece by piece and in order:
    Quote Originally Posted by Nandina View Post
    So, I've been tempted to use a Fantasia, and change from Miqo'te, so I started playing around with the character creation, and the lack of diversity is abysmal. I wanted to make a Hyur female, but I can't help but notice there isn't much wiggle room. There's only one cute braided mohawk style, and some dookie dreads. Where are the curly or even kinky hair styles? There are no flat twists, no cornrows, no box braids, no senegalese twists, no two strand twists, etc. I thought there was an afro option, but I didn't see that either. Under the nose options, there's are no truly wider options (I'm not saying the nose has to take up the entire face). There are no larger fuller lips. Skin tones run either cool or red, and there are absolutely no yellow undertones. Many of the little boxes on the skin color grid are virtually indistinguishable from the ones at least four spaces from them vertically, making them a waste. On brown skin tones, this makes the character appear ashy and in severe need of lotion. Skin tone alone is not diversity. Sure you can make your character Sudanese black, but if the nose and lips are slim and thin, is it really a black person? No.

    Releasing multiple hairstyles is cute, but when are we going to get some new faces, noses, lips, and eyebrows that don't harken back to the late 90s and early 2000s? There's nothing wrong with a thicker brow.
    I bring this up, because there are many black and brown people who play this game, yet the character creation only caters to one demographic for the most part, and that's white. Ironically, I don't even see Asian faces despite this being a Japanese game. So you mean to tell me that my black and brown friends are good enough to receive a subscription from, but not good enough to have the character creation cater to them as well?
    I'm biracial (black mom, Russian dad) and while I'm not dark skinned I don't have thin lips and sharp facial features.

    I already know some people are going to be in their feelings about this, and that's fine.
    Now it seems you're just trying to screw her rep. Saying she said and didn't say certain things and that's not cool. She was very clear on what she asked for in the OP and she wrote her entire post THEN went on a small piece about race. You cherry-picked that one piece and decided get mad about it. You don't want to talk about black features and hairstyles and how they could work, what styles we could have and how they would look. That's where we were back at pages 31-37(?). It was nice too. You're only here to further detail this thread into a place filled with hate and bickering over nothing and you must love it or else you'd go away. As SOON as the drama started again you and many others reappeared to continue stirring trouble. Want this thread to die? Go away then. You're not helping anyone. You're just bashing people who want something on their character ultimately. That's what they want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    That's because the OP set the aggressive tone of the thread from the beginning. Her second post insults someone by claiming they have a lack of reading comprehension. Not a good way to expect civility.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    I want more options for features and skin tones. But I stayed out of this thread, because the language in the OP emphasized that the creators don't like blacks.
    OP this OP that. OP isn't even HERE. Hasn't been here for multiple pages. She can't even defend herself as it is. And yet you guys still ride the OP hate train and for what? What is it? We are on page 47 who cares what the OP said.

    We were attempting to salvage the thread and talk about the actual subject and you people ruined that/are ruining that. Lunaxia for bringing it up. And all of you for pouncing back in at the slightest chance to get back in to the drama. I wonder how Nandina's going to feel when she comes back to see her thread delved back into hate.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 07-19-2018 at 09:33 AM.