Character Creation Has A Race Problem

[Bourne_Endeavor]

So you agree representation can be improved. But you don't agree that racism is behind it?

It's almost like they aren't mutually exclusive. Shocking, I know.

Well, I'm confused then. What problems do you judge to be actual racial issues, and more importantly, what evidence do you have to prove this lack of prevalence?

Ones we can actually prove have a racist undertone not simply infer it out of bias assumptions. Case in point, I merely cited Beyoncé as an example yet somehow because there are more successful white artists, it can only be unintentional racism. Okay. Provide that evidence. The burden is on you to prove racism is holding people back, not on me debunk your assumptions. If we go by your logic, shall we call the Hip Hop and R&S genres racist as they've historically been predominantly black? See, that's the issue when you try and force an "ism" on everything. It inevitably applies both ways. Of course, few people doing that ever want to acknowledge it.

[Lunaxia]

It's almost like they aren't mutually exclusive. Shocking, I know.

Then provide an explanation.

vague

Oh, no, no, no. I know your beloved tactic of foisting all responsibility for evidence onto the opposing party and using it to prove yourself right despite the absence of anything even slightly resembling evidence on your part. Where are these statistics you mentioned that prove just how not prevalent racism is? You can't cite that without anything to back it up. How can you prove to me that racism is not behind poor representation?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Then provide an explanation.

Poor representation can come from simple statistical leanings. A primarily white neighborhood will have a primarily white school, for instance. That doesn't mean the school is unintentional racist, but it also means representation could improve. Likewise, the same logic applies to media. A video game only having heterosexual relationship options isn't necessarily spouting off some homophobic agenda. At the same time, non-traditional relationships could be better represented.

Put simply. If you can prove discrimination. I will fight that battle with you. I will not, however, fight a battle based on blind assumptions.

Oh, no, no, no. I know your beloved tactic of foisting all responsibility for evidence onto the opposing party and using it to prove yourself right despite the absence of anything even slightly resembling evidence on your part. Where are these statistics you mentioned that prove just how not prevalent racism is? You can't cite that without anything to back it up. How can you prove to me that racism is not behind poor representation?

Because if you make an accusation, the onus is on you prove it. In fact, let's glance back to your WHM is dead thread. You had literally no evidence except your own opinion, and argued down everyone else despite them going so far as to take screenshots. So I know your "beloved tactic" too. You have an opinion—one often entirely unsubstantiated—then expect others to prove it wrong, or deny the proof they provide.