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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    I don’t see it as an end all be all as much as a nice touch. When I was a kid playing Pokémon I imagined that my trainer looked like me. After a few games they let me play a female trainer. The more recent games now let me pick a skin tone close to my own. Neither of these were mandatory changes I needed, but they improved the overall experience for me.

    I think people get too hung up on buzzwords instead of seeing more options for customization.
    Ironically enough, your Pokemon example is a case of what the OP and other people in this thread are arguing against.



    Don't you see they CLEARLY just substituted darker skin on characters with traditionally caucasian features, which is NOT ENOUGH and stands as evidence of the DISCRIMINATION that PoC have to endure every day!

    Is it any wonder people didn't take this thread seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    Ironically enough, your Pokemon example is a case of what the OP and other people in this thread are arguing against.



    Don't you see they CLEARLY just substituted darker skin on characters with traditionally caucasian features, which is NOT ENOUGH and stands as evidence of the DISCRIMINATION that PoC have to endure every day!

    Is it any wonder people didn't take this thread seriously?
    Which part is Caucasian again? The grapefruit sized anime eyes? the spec pen drop tip that represents an entire nose? The completely non existant lips? These are a symbol of a human face. No human on the planet, let alone race of people actually look like this. They are approximations of a human. A caricature of a homosapien. If you were to draw the darker skinned people to include the same ridiculous caricature style features but of black people you would end up with big fat cartoon lips and a wide nose and people would be pointing to the racist drawings of the jim crow era and be outraged. Heck the only 'caucasian' thing about them is the white ones have an option for blue eyes and the darker faces only have darker eyes. Thats the most realistic thing in this whole image lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    Don't you see they CLEARLY just substituted darker skin on characters with traditionally caucasian features, which is NOT ENOUGH and stands as evidence of the DISCRIMINATION that PoC have to endure every day!

    Is it any wonder people didn't take this thread seriously?
    I've never seen anyone IRL look like those characters. They are drawn in the typical anime style which does NOT follow realistic depictions of people IRL. IRL people don't have one line of a mouth and basically a black dot on their face signifying a nose, but that is the style of anime, they don't have well defined noses or lips, and it rarely deviates. It is an art style.

    We need more options, faces, hair, etc, yep, no problem there, but the idea that certain facial feature shapes are linked solely to a be all and one all representation of a race is absurd and using it as an argument for that is just pointless.

    We just need more options because the current creator doesn't have enough variety in general, not because of some nonsense that they are discriminating by not having the exact shapes everyone wants.

    Facial features such as nose shape, eye shape, and lip shape are not 100% linked to your race. The world is too diverse to think in such narrow-minded black and white terms.

    Just because someone has a certain shape of eye, a certain shape of nose, a certain shape of lips then they must 100% be or represent a certain race all because of that? Nope.
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    Last edited by Miste; 07-19-2018 at 07:32 AM.