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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Western media is consumed on a global scale. 1 in 5 people in the US are non-white. Up to half the population of major cities like London and New York are non-white, and in some cases white is no longer even the majority. Multi-culturalism is growing rapidly. "But there's more white people" is an incredibly old and weak excuse used to cover the heavy bias towards white people that still exists, despite there being no shortage of other races in the industry or in the audience.

    No, it's not a case of apathy "because everything is racist/ sexist" lol. It's because while people are fine saying that slurs and harassment are wrong, they don't like having it pointed out to them that they have benefited from a system that excludes or discriminates against other ethnicities and become incredibly defensive. This thread is a perfect example.
    Have you glanced at any statistics lately? New York's white demographic is comprised of 70% while London is 60%. That remains a significant majority. Even by your own admission, 20% is a distinct minority, which only adds credence to my argument. When you have such enormous discrepancies like this, you will always get a majority leaning. Just because Western media is consumed on a global scale does not mean there will be equal representation across the board. It's statistically impossible without artificially influence because they simply have a smaller pool to pull from. Unfortunately, multi-culturalism isn't growing, at least not in North America, especially when we have nonsense like "cultural appropriation" because a sixteen year old American girl wore a Chinese dress to her prom.

    Or people recognize it's not some oppressive boogyman holding them back. Stop blaming racism, sexism or whatever else for all your (generalizing) problems. This thread is an example of the bias SJW mentality trying to blame everything and everyone else. It couldn't possibly be SE simply having a poor character creation. No, no. They're unintentionally racist. What utter nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    What on earth happened again with this thread, come on guys....I thought we fixed some issues by now.
    This thread was never salvageable.Now it's just someone else captaining this sinking ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    ]This thread was never salvageable.Now it's just someone else captaining this sinking ship.
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    ]It was fine until someone else came up and started crying about discrimination...
    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Nah, this thread was boinked from the beginning, there really wasn't anything TO fix.
    I suppose I just had faith and higher hopes that the ship would start to reconstruct it's bow from sitting at the bottom of the Ruby Sea by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I suppose I just had faith and higher hopes that the ship would start to reconstruct it's bow from sitting at the bottom of the Ruby Sea by now.
    The only way that would be possible is if the OP creates a new post about the topic without the clickbait title designed to create outrage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    The only way that would be possible is if the OP creates a new post about the topic without the clickbait title designed to create outrage.
    Or people grow up a bit, ignore the silly little race war that a few people were bickering over, and discuss the topic at hand. However, this being the OF, you're probably correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Or people grow up a bit, ignore the silly little race war that a few people were bickering over, and discuss the topic at hand. However, this being the OF, you're probably correct.
    Race IS part of the topic since it's included in the title so people are discussing that. We all agree about more customization options, but not about WHY they should be implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Race IS part of the topic since it's included in the title so people are discussing that. We all agree about more customization options, but not about WHY they should be implemented.
    Of course race is part of the thread, but the bickering over the nonsense was not needed which is why I made my comment. It is very possible to have a civil conversation regarding sensitive topics, all whilst remaining on topic - even with people with whom you disagree. People should try harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Or people grow up a bit, ignore the silly little race war that a few people were bickering over, and discuss the topic at hand. However, this being the OF, you're probably correct.
    They won't. Proving my earlier point, everyone decided to post in this thread again the moment it became about race war stuff. It's clear that's all anyone wants to talk about. It's definitely pointless now. People don't want to actually talk about the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    They won't. Proving my earlier point, everyone decided to post in this thread again the moment it became about race war stuff. It's clear that's all anyone wants to talk about. It's definitely pointless now. People don't want to actually talk about the subject.
    Telling someone glamour doesn’t represent religion =/= race war stuff. Just pointing that out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Of course race is part of the thread, but the bickering over the nonsense was not needed which is why I made my comment. It is very possible to have a civil conversation regarding sensitive topics, all whilst remaining on topic - even with people with whom you disagree. People should try harder.
    In all fairness, it’s difficult to remain cordial with individuals who insinuate that you’re “slow”, or who tell you to “keep up” when you disagree with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    In all fairness, it’s difficult to remain cordial with individuals who insinuate that you’re “slow”, or who tell you to “keep up” when you disagree with them.
    Ayee, this is true as well. Usually best to just ignore them at that point, although I think we've all been guilty at times of indulging when we probably shouldn't. ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Telling someone glamour doesn’t represent religion =/= race war stuff. Just pointing that out.
    Regardless. It's off-topic and adds nothing to the request. Even I stopped posting. Thread is even worse than before.
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