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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    See how you continue to make this about how the idea is being delivered and never about the idea itself?
    And they keep DOING IT too. Harping and harping on delivery this and delivery that, who cares at this point? If everyone is so on board with everything just talk about the suggestion then.

    If I ask for mixed races, who cares if it's because I like mixed people IRL, like humans with plastic kitty ear hats, or like the idea of a Miqo'te-Hyur mix. It doesn't matter.

    If someone wants bigger butts, it could be because they want a butt similar to their own, want to see a big butt all the time, want to be aroused all the time, or just want to be normal. The motive doesn't detract from the suggestion.

    Stop dodging the request by inflating the thread with stupid tumblr-buzzword-racewar-delivery stuff.

    I'm sure the OP would love to spend her time chatting about hairstyle and face ideas instead of racism for 20 more pages.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 07-14-2018 at 07:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    I'm sure the OP would love to spend her time chatting about hairstyle and face ideas instead of racism for 20 more pages.
    Great! Next time, don't open such a discussion while insinuating lack of customization is due to a "racial issue." The well has long been tainted, and the OP has no one else except themselves to blame. Notice how every other thread asking for better customization receives precisely zero backlash regarding racism. There's a reason. They don't mention it in their opening post nor anywhere in the discussion thereafter.

    It's pretty simple. If you don't want people talking about "stupid tumblr buzzwords" don't bring up stupid tumblr idiocy. What a novel concept!

    In fact, a perfect comparison would be creating a thread citing how toxic and elitist raiders are only to subsequently claim you wanted to have a discussion about how to improve the raid community. People aren't going to care because the initial post was aggressive much in the same way the OP's post and follow up responses carried a race baiting and condescending undertone.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 07-14-2018 at 07:55 AM.

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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Great! Next time, don't open such a discussion while insinuating lack of customization is due to a "racial issue." The well has long been tainted, and the OP has no one else except themselves to blame. Notice how every other thread asking for better customization receives precisely zero backlash regarding racism. There's a reason. They don't mention it in their opening post nor anywhere in the discussion thereafter.

    It's pretty simple. If you don't want people talking about "stupid tumblr buzzwords" don't bring up stupid tumblr idiocy. What a novel concept!

    In fact, a perfect comparison would be creating a thread citing how toxic and elitist raiders are only to subsequently claim you wanted to have a discussion about how to improve the raid community. People aren't going to care because the initial post was aggressive much in the same way the OP's post and follow up responses carried a race baiting and condescending undertone.
    I just re-read OPs post and whatever was said that had anything to do with race or racism was extremely light and the post was not aggressive. It all started with Valkyrie's post. It's not OP's fault you got your panties in a bunch over what she said. If anything with your reaction, you could qualify more as "Tumblr-worthy" for continuing it instead of dropping it. Letting go.

    Anyways, I'm not going to respond anymore if you're going to keep talking about OP's attitude instead of her request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    I just re-read OPs post and whatever was said that had anything to do with race or racism was extremely light and the post was not aggressive. It all started with Valkyrie's post. It's not OP's fault you got your panties in a bunch over what she said. If anything with your reaction, you could qualify more as "Tumblr-worthy" for continuing it instead of dropping it. Letting go.

    Anyways, I'm not going to respond anymore if you're going to keep talking about OP's attitude instead of her request.
    Extremely light yet the OP made no less than two direct insinuations of racism, accusing SE of, "catering towards white people." She proceeds with this aggressive undertone and rudely engages everyone instead of attempting to sheer the conversation towards customization or acknowledging they may have been overzealous. People, myself included, are simply responding to how the OP has engaged us. You don't get to abruptly demand people talk about what you purported want after being disingenuous. If the OP showed some humility, perhaps the conversation would have changed long ago. She didn't. And more people chose to comment on the subject which the topic shifted towards. This is why your presentation in any debate is important. Don't blame everyone else because the OP acted defensively and spurred on a racial discussion only to balk when people rightfully called her out.

    No one cares about the OP's request any longer. Her attitude has dominated the thread, and that is of her own making. Next time, if you want to discuss the game's lack of customization instead of claiming FFXIV has a racial issue say it has poor customization options.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 07-14-2018 at 08:48 AM.

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