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    Nandina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    No, Tumblr just over-exaggerates or creates problems where there isn't one. You fall into that category, especially how you've taken it upon yourself to speak on behalf of everyone. Who made you the arbiter of race and supposed inclusivity? FFXIV has no inclusivity problem. You're simply looking to be offended, and speaking over other non-people who have also disagreed with you.

    Apparently, you have a low tolerance for BS... yet you made this thread. Suppose you never said hypocritical BS.
    And who exactly gave you the authority to determine that others don’t have a problem simply because you don’t? Who gave you the authority to speak for others and to determine that FFXIV doesn’t have an inclusivity issue? Seems like you’re speaking over people.There were others in the thread who agreed with me, and you’re trying to erase that fact. There are people I know IRL who agree with me. Just because you and ten others, disagree with me, doesn’t mean that my point is BS. Just because you personally haven’t seen it mentioned before now doesn’t mean the thread is BS. So you’re looking mighty hypocritical over there yourself. You’re speaking over me by declaring my intent with this thread was to be offended, when instead it was to get added customization. Because at the end of the day, that’s what it really boiled down to. And evidently there is an inclusivity issue amongst a few members of the community given yours and other’s tired responses. I didn’t speak on the behalf of everyone, just a certain demographic of the player base who would in fact like these options. What I eat, doesn’t make you shit. Some women don’t like wearing dresses, but I’m not going to go out of my way to counter why they shouldn’t have pants, when I still have access to dresses. Why? Because it doesn’t affect me. I’m also not going to tell her that she’s speaking on behalf of all women, and she’s creating a non issue, when clearly the issue is that women don’t have the option to wear pants. What do you personally lose out of players having the option to have more skin options? What do you personally lose out of Hyurs having added nose and mouth options that are fuller and broader?

    Because some black people partially disagreed with me, doesn’t mean I have no point. Just because others, regardless of ethnicity, disagree with me doesn’t mean I have to concede. Hell, historically the Western world thought the Earth was flat at one point, and to say otherwise was punishable by death. That did not stop Copernicus from being correct in stating it was round, and the ignorant masses from being wrong. In other words, I don’t have to agree or follow along with the majority of people on this thread. My point isn’t validated by likes, or invalidated by dislikes. You’re mad because I’m not acquiescing to the status-quo. You’re mad because I’m unapologetically shaking the table. I wouldn’t care if every member of the forum swooped in against me, I’m going to stand by what I said.

    And did you really call us non-people? So if we’re not people, what are we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nandina View Post
    And who exactly gave you the authority to determine that others don’t have a problem simply because you don’t? Who gave you the authority to speak for others and to determine that FFXIV doesn’t have an inclusivity issue? Seems like you’re speaking over people.There were others in the thread who agreed with me, and you’re trying to erase that fact.
    In a thread spanning twenty four pages now, you've had less people agree with you than the number of fingers on a single hand. Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority has cited your supposed crisis derived of little more than bias, inaccuracy, seeking attention or a combination of all three. While I dislike using "likes" as an agreement ratio, we needs only look towards the sheer number on responses disagreeing with you. If you had the high ground, this wouldn't be such a one-sided argument. Fortunately, you can prove us all wrong by simply providing some evidence; cite sources of widespread complaints or anger over the perceived racial bias or "white washing" as I recall you mention previously. And before you claim I offer evidence there isn't any. The onus is on you to prove such a problem exists not that I disprove a theory.

    I suspect we'll be waiting on a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nandina View Post
    You’re speaking over me by declaring my intent with this thread was to be offended, when instead it was to get added customization.
    Bullshit

    The very title of your thread specifically highlights a perceived racial issue. If you merely wished for more customization, you wouldn't have singled out race and presented your case by disparaging Square Enix for their supposed "white washing." People have asked for customization aplenty, but only you tied racial issues onto it. Don't try shifting the goal posts now that people have called you out on your bias.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nandina View Post
    Because some black people partially disagreed with me, doesn’t mean I have no point.
    No, sweetheart. You have no point because none of your arguments are substantiated. You lack even the slightest amount of sources and the overwhelming majority of players even in this very thread disagree. Unlike you, most people aren't basing their decisions and perceived offense on the colour of their skin. They disagree because, quite frankly, your arguments have been bias nonsense. I'm not mad, I find you entertaining. Shaking the table? Tumblr does have a flare for the melodramatic. But you shake that table! Maybe one day you'll fall out of the echo chamber. The rest of us will continue on living in the real world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nandina View Post
    And did you really call us non-people? So if we’re not people, what are we?
    And this, this highlights precisely why you're little more than an attention seeker looking to take offense. The context of my statement makes literally no sense if I actually meant to type "non-people." Why would I defend people yet insult them in the same sentence? You know bloody well that was simply a typo—one caused because I rewrote my response and accidentally blurred sentences together. It happens, especially when you multi-task. Most people tease you over it a little and move on. You, of course, will take it as this big offense and believe wholeheartedly I meant it, and did some sneaky edit later! Oh, no! I been have found out! You lot (referring to the perpetual offended culture just so we're clear) are ever so predictable I wish that typo had been an intentional bait.

    You have no argument, and insinuated nearly everyone disagreeing as proof the community lacks inclusivity because there is no scenario where you could possibly be wrong. All we need now is a poorly written Polygon article using Twitter for their sources and we'll have reached Mainstream idiocy.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 07-14-2018 at 12:27 AM. Reason: Sneaky edit! I wonder why changed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    And this, this highlights precisely why you're little more than an attention seeker looking to take offense.



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