Character Creation Has A Race Problem

[Seig345]

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But the community is able to make other complaints, which SE looks into and even adjusts in many instances, but when it comes to this particular one, suddenly it's invalid. Gotcha. No one is saying the character has to look exactly like them.

I never said your complaint was invalid, but okay, be hostile.

You are arguing that the game should have more options based on a lack of options that suit you. I am simply pointing out that the problem with this is that the basis of your complaint implies that the game needs to have every possible hairstyle and possible skin undertone possible for anyone who has the same complaint as you, unless you’re literally only asking SE to provide your personal request and not those of everyone else who wants more accurate features to match their rl selves but don’t have the same rl features as you.

[Iscah]

Skin tones run either cool or red, and there are absolutely no yellow undertones.

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Ironically, I don't even see Asian faces despite this being a Japanese game.

There's not much in the 'standard human' pallette (Hyur/Wildwood/Sunseeker) but Lalafells seem to have more of a yellow range in their options. I'm not sure why they made that different.


However, the "lack of Asian faces in a Japanese game" suggests that whatever the source of the issue, it's not about "failing to represent other races because they are foreign". It's also a fantasy world that is (at least initially) set in a Europe-equivalent, so it does make sense for the characters to look more European - not that the 'Asian' Hyurans look any different once we get there.

For what it's worth, there doesn't seem to be an Africa equivalent, at least geographically - unless it's supposed to be Meracydia, but it's not connected by land to the other continents. (Also I've seen people say that Eorzea itself is meant to be Africa, based on the approximate shape of the continent, but that doesn't make sense culturally. Othard isn't shaped like Asia either.)

But is a Hyur’s origin Europe? Think before you type. I’m not saying a European has to look like anything other than what they are. Careful you may dislocate your shoulder with that reach.

It's not Earth, so how can we know? Maybe their origin doesn't mimic human origins on Earth. Again, there isn't an Africa for them to migrate out of, at least by a land route.

The lorebook information on Hyurans seems to say they came to Eorzea out of Ilsabard, and they're found across the Three Continents and the New World. (Again, information is lacking about Meracydia so they could be there as well, but we'll probably get to that sometime later.)

Some of you all really struggle to follow along. No wonder many can’t grasp moving out of red circles and to not spam Blizzard. I could’ve swore I said Hyur in the OP, and that’s what most have been discussing. Do try to keep up.

You said "red, grey and green people". Not Hyurans. The other races are still equally people. Hyurans' defining trait is being actually-kinda-boring and not venturing outside of (a subset of) real human traits. You pick a different race if you want unusual skin colours.

If you want to talk about lack of variety overall, you still need to look at all the options - otherwise you might be saying "I can't make my Hyur look like X" when actually you could have X if you used a different race. It depends which elements of the appearance are most important to you.

I started out as a dark duskwight because I started in limsa as arcanist. At first I thought it was good because the map shows it's in southern hemisphere.
Then I looked around, with light green/blue seawolves and sunseekers. I switched to wildwood after I learned more about hydaelyn, particularly gelmorra (home of lots of duskwights) which I'm surprised was underground, also the darker tones live in forest and caves (why??). The lore doesn't really match climate with races or works the opposite logic in eorZea. Othard makes more sense with confederates living by the sea.

Limsa is in the southern part of the map, but that's not the southern hemisphere - the map just shows northern-hemisphere continents. (Additionally, Sea Wolves originate from further north, and seem to be the Eorzean equivalent of Vikings.)

From what I remember of geography class, there's roughly a band of tropical climate around the equator, then desert either side, then temperate climate. Eorzea seems to be temperate with desert only in the southern region, plus Gyr Abania. (I wonder if the map is perfectly 'straight' or if there's some distortion going on. Or you can just blame it on aetherial states messing up geography or something, like Coerthas's eternal winter.)


But yes, skin tone does seem to be somewhat arbitrary - although despite having the option for Duskwights to have darker skintones, the few we actually see tend to be pale grey (eg. the researchers at Issom-Har in the South Shroud) or greyish-tan (possibly those that have been out in the sunlight more!). I can only think of seeing one really dark grey NPC, a Wood Wailer standing guard that progresses a quest when you speak to him, and isn't seen again after that.

For weirdness elsewhere, there's the few dark-skinned Ishgardian Elezen when most of the population are pale. It seems to be an individual/family trait rather than race-related.