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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
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    The problem that I'm positive that a lot of people are currently having with the OP is that they directed this thread into a racial issue. The very first response they made here included this statement:

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    But I’m sure you’re represented and have no problems with the game reflecting you in real life, just not others
    They started off fine, but when something like this is said, they are just inviting themselves to criticism over an unnecessary response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    They started off fine, but when something like this is said, they are just inviting themselves to criticism over an unnecessary response.
    This is all going to be assumption on my part but I feel I understand why they responded in that way. To me it's simple. They're just retaliating. They ask for something they are obviously passionate about when it comes to character creation and it gets veritably shot down by pretty much everyone. So it doesn't surprise me that the response, by presumably a black person, got hostile and defensive quickly as the initial response. Granted it's not the best way to respond, I wouldn't have done the same, but it's understandable. To me. You should try to look a tad more into the why's and how's of their responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    This is all going to be assumption on my part but I feel I understand why they responded in that way. To me it's simple. They're just retaliating. They ask for something they are obviously passionate about when it comes to character creation and it gets veritably shot down by pretty much everyone. So it doesn't surprise me that the response, by presumably a black person, got hostile and defensive quickly as the initial response. Granted it's not the best way to respond, I wouldn't have done the same, but it's understandable. To me. You should try to look a tad more into the why's and how's of their responses.
    Retaliating for what, though? That's literally the third response in the thread...the very first response was from a black individual sympathetic to their reasoning...so what in the world were they retaliating to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Retaliating for what, though? That's literally the third response in the thread...the very first response was from a black individual sympathetic to their reasoning...so what in the world were they retaliating to?
    Everyone else. Notice how OurMom disagreed with OP but OP didn't get upset with OurMom. Again I'm not saying the attitude is good. It's definitely not a good way to debate or argue.

    Both sides should offer up better arguments than what has been used so far. Because honestly? None of what anyone has said has made me think "Okay this legitimately can't happen for this or that reason".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Everyone else. Notice how OurMom disagreed with OP but OP didn't get upset with OurMom. Again I'm not saying the attitude is good. It's definitely not a good way to debate or argue.

    Both sides should offer up better arguments than what has been used do far. Because honestly? None of what anyone has said has made me think "Okay this legitimately can't happen for this or that reason".
    I agree. However, the tone of the thread had already been set by the OP when they posted their first response. We both know this - all it takes is one comment and the thread will descend into that direction, especially if the OP continues posting in a confrontational, aggressive, and/or haughty manner. This subject does interest me, but I don't think this thread will get anywhere constructive right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    This is all going to be assumption on my part but I feel I understand why they responded in that way. To me it's simple. They're just retaliating. They ask for something they are obviously passionate about when it comes to character creation and it gets veritably shot down by pretty much everyone. So it doesn't surprise me that the response, by presumably a black person, got hostile and defensive quickly as the initial response. Granted it's not the best way to respond, I wouldn't have done the same, but it's understandable. To me. You should try to look a tad more into the why's and how's of their responses.
    No one really shot down their ideas. Everyone seems to be on board with better character creation and more hairstyles, including those that are woefully under represented like wavy and curly. What people do not like the is the unnecessary aggression (see their response to my original post) and holier-than-thou WOKE AF attitude. There has been tons of threads simply asking for better black hairstyles and customization that weren't dripping with superiority that got very good responses.
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