Character Creation Has A Race Problem

[Miste]

Who started these arguments? Who addressed who first?

If you are talking about me then yeah I replied to you because you made ridiculous claims that the game is discriminatory.

Are you seriously trying to say that I am supposed to feel bad for offering my counter opinion on a public forum? If not then who cares who addressed who first or who started the argument? What is this fifth grade?

The post I initially quoted you were also being hugely passive aggressive so I figured I should also point out how hypocritical you are being.

Who continues to address who despite supposedly being done with their posts?

If you are talking about me then when did I ever say I was done with my posts? Honestly I don't even know who you are talking about lol

Who holds onto grudges from year old/ month old threads?

If that helps you cope, by all means then believe it is definitely not because I disagree with your claim that this game discriminates and not because you have a rude attitude, it is solely because I have a grudge. /s

The funny thing is you do, lol.

Whatever makes you feel better that you can't handle discussions on a forum without resorting to rude passive aggressive behavior with everyone if they don't agree with you or your opinions.

The easiest answer for you is to just base any disagreement on that nonsense because you have nothing else.

[Magic-Mal]

That was my first post. I told you what I saw and why I didn't post originally.

It's whatever at this point to me Zsolen. This place has become nothing but a place to throw flaming rocks at the OP. It's almost dang near bullying. And it's sad.

[Raou]

Can someone tell me definitively why PoC having representation in this game is a bad idea?

[Magic-Mal]

Can someone tell me definitively why PoC having representation in this game is a bad idea?

"it's a fantasy game"

[Rokke]

Can someone tell me definitively why PoC having representation in this game is a bad idea?

Because the second the word "representation" is posted here people hear kill bill sirens. You should have seen the gay discord thread, it was a s*** show and a half.

[KaivaC]

It's whatever at this point to me Zsolen. This place has become nothing but a place to throw flaming rocks at the OP. It's almost dang near bullying. And it's sad.

And you are, what, the knight-in-shining-armor, come to defend against the flames standing against her? It's been pointed out multiple times, OP is the one that both started this fire and threw a mountain's worth of gasoline on it before there were even a dozen responses on this thread. And even when it was pointed out that the heart of the issue is the character creator and not representation, that was constantly being questioned by you and her. Don't sit here and try to portray the OP as the victim - she dug herself in that hole and seemingly moved on to different pastures when it was clear she wasn't going to be able to bring herself out of this hole - something that you haven't figured out as of yet.

To summarize: nobody wants to discuss the subject, because in this thread, there's really nothing to healthily discuss in the first place aside from a very lacking character creator. Nobody cares when someone says that a particular race is under-represented, because that's not true and no amount of grandstanding will change that fact. That's just the truth. The character creator is just...weak.

[MoroMurasaki]

Very nice ad hominem. You’re losing an argument, so you turn to attacking your opponent instead?

Either way, my point still stands: saying that specific religions are referenced and/or represented by glamour options is still a reach at best.

No, you're just a really awful person and I genuinely have no interest in engaging you.

I've shut you down several times even before this thread and you keep coming back, trying to bait me into answering. The obsession lies with you. Get help.

Where do you get off trying to call someone you don't even know an awful person? I've reported your post as abusive and encourage others to do so as well.

Civilized people can have a discussion without resorting to direct insults.

Hopefully now a mod can close this and get this trash off the internet.

[Awha]

aside from some of the customization suggested in this thread
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...........I'm still waiting on Tattoos

You know Tattoos would be nice.

Can someone tell me definitively why PoC having representation in this game is a bad idea?

Nothing wrong with representation, but things get murky when people claim lack of representation is due to malicious intent. More customization options is never a bad thing, but how the suggestion was framed made it seem like their had a different motive. I mean the game simply has sub-par customization options and a dated character creator, that is all SE is not trying to push an agenda and cater to a certain group with their character creator, as many said it just a crappy and dated character creator.

[Magic-Mal]

To summarize: nobody wants to discuss the subject, because in this thread, there's really nothing to healthily discuss in the first place aside from a very lacking character creator. Nobody cares when someone says that a particular race is under-represented, because that's not true and no amount of grandstanding will change that fact. That's just the truth. The character creator is just...weak.

You're back now too? Gang's all here. Defending her? Lol. I'm defending the entire thread itself because this is something I care about. Something I can personally relate to with games conveniently lacking in the same exact things. It doesn't matter if I'll use the options or not.

And you're wrong. We had a perfectly civil discussion before we went back into the mess. Read Iscah's posts back there as an example of what y'all could be doing instead of this.

[KaivaC]

You're back now too? Gang's all here. Defending her? Lol. I'm defending the entire thread itself because this is something I care about. Something I can personally relate to with games conveniently lacking in the same exact things. It doesn't matter if I'll use the options or not.

And your wrong. We had a perfectly civil discussion before we went back into the mess. Read Iscah's posts back there as an example of what y'all could be doing instead of this.

Yes, I'm aware of the direction this thread has took - just because I'm not actively posting doesn't mean I'm not reading. Nor do I follow any one person on these forums. I'll comment when I have something to say, doesn't matter who is or isn't around.

That's fine if you and others care about the subject. It doesn't mean that you folks are necessarily right, either. There's been a near unanimous agreement about requesting additional features - it's the original idea behind it, that minorities are somehow underrepresented, whether intentionally or not, that leaves a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths.