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    uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu's Avatar
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    Pa Lin'guine
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    I started out as a dark duskwight because I started in limsa as arcanist. At first I thought it was good because the map shows it's in southern hemisphere.
    Then I looked around, with light green/blue seawolves and sunseekers. I switched to wildwood after I learned more about hydaelyn, particularly gelmorra
    (home of lots of duskwights) which I'm surprised was underground, also the darker tones live in forest and caves (why??). The lore doesn't really match
    climate with races or works the opposite logic in eorZea. Othard makes more sense with confederates living by the sea. Adjust your story, the game provide
    options for the story, not for your real life. No game can do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu View Post
    (...)also the darker tones live in forest and caves (why??). The lore doesn't really match climate with races or works the opposite logic in eorZea.
    The races in game are not humans. If you look at animals, the ones that live in caves are dark in color (if they live in shallow caves or go out of them, usually at night) or close to white (if they spend their entire lives in a complete darkness). Thus civilizations like Au Ra that obviously leave the caves and are active round the clock will be naturally darker skinned. That's for camouflage, which creatures in total darkness don't need.

    Humans that live in sunny areas have darker skin for a simple reason. The cells of the body are less likely to be damaged by the exposure to sun. The pigments that are responsible for skin color and tone also protect from ultraviolet ray, and that comes with the sun. Some ultraviolet rays are needed for production of vitamin D, so in areas with less exposure to sun or weaker radiation (for whatever reason), protecting themselves from what little sun they get is a health hazard. If they don't have enough protection in sunnier areas with tons of radiation...the skin cells will start falling apart as a result of their DNA being damaged, possibly developing lethal skin diseases.

    In Eorzea and with the other races...that point is moot. We don't know the intensity of ultraviolet radiation, or even whether it's needed. They may be producing vitamid D through the use of a different chemical reaction, they may get more of it from food or they may just not even need it to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    In Eorzea and with the other races...that point is moot. We don't know the intensity of ultraviolet radiation, or even whether it's needed. They may be producing vitamid D through the use of a different chemical reaction, they may get more of it from food or they may just not even need it to begin with.
    Appeal to ignorance fallacy. You can't use what you don't know to justify why something can or can't happen, because it literally proves nothing. Using your logic, I could say that the ultraviolet radiation could be the same as ours in real life to justify why we should get more differences, but that's a weak argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nandina View Post
    Appeal to ignorance fallacy. You can't use what you don't know to justify why something can or can't happen, because it literally proves nothing. Using your logic, I could say that the ultraviolet radiation could be the same as ours in real life to justify why we should get more differences, but that's a weak argument.
    Congratulations. You are able to read something that doesn't even exist.

    As in...I didn't write in any way, shape or form about anything at all related to you and your little quest for (fake) equality. I merely responded to a post in which a player showed curiosity or lack of understanding for the choices towards habitat of creatures of specific tones in the games lore, explaining why their surprise is not warranted.

    Go and wage your war as you please. I am strictly against any kind of reverse discrimination in anything and everything at all. And I value a creative freedom above all else. This is the world that the developers wanted to make, that they envisioned. I may like it (and play it) or not like it (and not play it). I can like some of it (and play it giving suggestions). But I have absolutely no right to demand something for some ideological reason...that have zero to do with the game (or any game for the matter).

    At the same time, I know that trying to argue these points is a waste of time...so yeah. Stick to it or leave it be...I couldn't care less. I won't discuss this with you or anyone else...nor did I do that. And that's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyvernheart View Post
    I to find their options lacking. I would love a fresh lining, fro hawk, cornrows, zig-zags, pressed hair, a face with a good fat tail, and a high top fade. Pleased se,please let me look good.
    Exactly. That’s what a lot of my friends want. Just throw in something with every patch instead of a million straight hair options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nandina View Post
    Exactly. That’s what a lot of my friends want. Just throw in something with every patch instead of a million straight hair options.
    Pretty sure Highlanders have those things (hairstyles). Again, racial features are racial features. You are trying to cross racial features into races that dont have those features.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Afro option is at Gold saucer and then you can change it in game

    But not in main character creator stops people making a complete new character without having to unlock hair styles

    There is plenty of diversity in skin color just not in hair style
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    Oh... This thread finally happened. Was wondering when it was going to come up.
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    Ack, my post got cut off. While I somewhat understand what the OP is attempting to say, there isn't really a racial problem in this game... Not in the sense of underrepresentation of real life equivalents of ethnicities. Certain hairstyles just may not exist in ff14. At the end of the day, this is still a Japanese mmo, so it's really a moot point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Ack, my post got cut off. While I somewhat understand what the OP is attempting to say, there isn't really a racial problem in this game... Not in the sense of underrepresentation of real life equivalents of ethnicities. Certain hairstyles just may not exist in ff14. At the end of the day, this is still a Japanese mmo, so it's really a moot point.
    It's not moot. SE shouldn't market it outside of Japan, and want subscribers outside of Japan if they aren't willing to represent their subscriber base. FFXIV should just be a strictly Japanese MMO.
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