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  1. #1
    Player
    dundhey's Avatar
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    Character
    Kelly Kelly
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 60
    Tank: DPS
    Healer: DPS
    DPS: Hate control

    Did i get this right?
    (2)

  2. #2
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    Tho-Much's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Character
    Thorioux Vaillant
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Tank: hate control - use his defensive Cooldowns properly - DPS
    Healer: make sure everyone survive the fight - hate control - DPS
    DPS: DPS - hate control

    It is not that hard to understand... thats what i call teamplay
    (4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Tho-Much View Post
    "Das kann man nicht vergleichen" - Eine der dümmsten und ignorantesten Aussagen überhaupt.

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    Hierro's Avatar
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    Character
    Ziero Rehw-bidit
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dundhey View Post
    Tank: DPS
    Healer: DPS
    DPS: Hate control

    Did i get this right?
    wow, my eyes have been open

    guys, healers should heal, only!

    tanks, use your 123 aggro combo ONLY and in tank stance as your ONLY stance.

    This guy is such a visionary.
    (0)

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    fumofu's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Little Fumo
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    wow, my eyes have been open

    guys, healers should heal, only!

    tanks, use your 123 aggro combo ONLY and in tank stance as your ONLY stance.

    This guy is such a visionary.
    Heck, maybe SE should abandon this outdated healer/tank/dd concept already cos this game is all about dps anyway. And that would solve problem with long waiting times to access instances, cos there's only one universal role.

    Just put all aggro controls to role actions, along with some heals and defensive skills. And don't forget to give ex-tanks/healers more dps skills, while removing their defensive and healing skills (which now are in role actions anyway).

    And there ya go! Perfect ffxiv, according to raiders and other optimisation maniacs. Cos these peopole are the only player group that matters here.
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    Last edited by fumofu; 08-04-2018 at 07:19 PM.

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    TaiyoShikasu's Avatar
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    Character
    Taiyo Shikasu
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    wow, my eyes have been open

    guys, healers should heal, only!

    tanks, use your 123 aggro combo ONLY and in tank stance as your ONLY stance.

    This guy is such a visionary.
    Respecting the content is a team job.
    (1)

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    Azbroolah's Avatar
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    Character
    Atticus Macalistar
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by dundhey View Post
    Tank: DPS
    Healer: DPS
    DPS: Hate control

    Did i get this right?
    Taking the obvious bait, but tanks actively lose DPS by swapping back into tank stance and aggro comboing, while using Diversion or Lucid as a DPS or healer costs nothing. It's not that hard to understand.
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  7. #7
    Player
    fumofu's Avatar
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    Little Fumo
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Azbroolah View Post
    Taking the obvious bait, but tanks actively lose DPS by swapping back into tank stance and aggro comboing, while using Diversion or Lucid as a DPS or healer costs nothing. It's not that hard to understand.
    So, basically you're agreeing with dundhey's statement? Thing is, there can't really be a single answer, because different types of content requires different play style. And while I understand and accept that savage and ex-trials are where everyone should push their dps, I'll never accept same expectations for regular dungeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by KatsuraJun View Post
    So from now on, I'm not using reprisal or veil anymore. Shake it Off will exclusively be reserved for keeping myself alive, because that's my job along with keeping aggro. Keeping the team alive is the healers job, they can just do their job properly instead of relying on me to press one button to help them with that.

    Next time the healer asks for a cover or blackest night on the prey target in o7s I'll tell them that's not my job and that they're bad.
    You guys seriously have trouble understanding that there's different play standards in savage and regular content, don't you?
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    Last edited by fumofu; 08-05-2018 at 12:05 PM.

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    Player
    Azbroolah's Avatar
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    Atticus Macalistar
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by fumofu View Post
    You guys seriously have trouble understanding that there's different play standards in savage and regular content, don't you?
    It's not like we're saying DPS players should go do hours of rotation practice and dummy parses to climb up to 7k DPS and play perfectly. We're saying "press Diversion when you're going to burst" or "press Lucid when you're climbing the list." It's literally that easy -- press a single button that costs you nothing so that your tank doesn't have to pay the price and cover up for your laziness.
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