DPS Enmity controls

[RayneBoemir]

At very least for BRD at least in dungeons enmity dumps are usually unavailable. You use refresh for opener and tactician for aoe tp so it’s not uncommon for them to rip hate if you aren’t doing tank stance/hate combos honestly wish they would give us a separate hate dump, diversion or put the hate dump from refresh/tactician on repelling shot.

[KatsuraJun]

So from now on, I'm not using reprisal or veil anymore. Shake it Off will exclusively be reserved for keeping myself alive, because that's my job along with keeping aggro. Keeping the team alive is the healers job, they can just do their job properly instead of relying on me to press one button to help them with that.

Next time the healer asks for a cover or blackest night on the prey target in o7s I'll tell them that's not my job and that they're bad.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

So, basically you're agreeing with dundhey's statement?

Unless I'm reading it wrong, I believe she's mocking people who keep insisting it's only the tank's responsibility to manage aggro. Abilities like Shake, Veil and Reprisal only help make things easier on healers, which is the precise same thing Diversion does for tanks. A tank refusing to use any of the aforementioned abilities would be immediately labelled a bad tank yet some people still defend not using Diversion.

You guys seriously have trouble understanding that there's different play standards in savage and regular content, don't you?

No, there really isn't. There is the lazy, "tanks adjust because I'm too lazy" and the efficient way. Is it really that much to ask DPS utilize their oGCDs to support the party? A Ninja who refuses to use Shadewalker and Smokescreen is a bad Ninja. Why is Diversion exempted from this? The same logic applies to DPS who refuse to AoE large pulls—some arguing because the rotation bores them. That isn't an example of a different playstyle, it's simply you wasting other people's time.

[Sunako]

Using diversion also cost you one role action slot. You have to choose do you wanna use lucid for mana, swiftcast for mobility or instaraise, addle for aoe mitigation or dps, apoc for tank busters, manashift for healers or bard foe, surecast preventing kncokbacks etc. You dont really wanna use diversion and sacrifice one of these skills if it is not 100% demanded.

[Lilyth]

Using diversion also cost you one role action slot. You have to choose do you wanna use lucid for mana, swiftcast for mobility or instaraise, addle for aoe mitigation or dps, apoc for tank busters, manashift for healers or bard foe, surecast preventing kncokbacks etc. You dont really wanna use diversion and sacrifice one of these skills if it is not 100% demanded.

Diversion IS 100% demanded.

For casters you only really need Swiftcast, Lucid and Diversion. The other two are freebies depending on the encounter. Are there knockbacks? Surecast + Manashift. Healers need help with mitigating magical roomwide AoEs and are there knockbacks (God Kefka)? Addle + Surecast. Are there heavy magical tankbusters + heavy roomwide AoEs (UwU)? Addle + Apoc.

The only real exception here is the SMN who needs Addle for an extra Wyrmwave, but even then you would be better removing surecast than Diversion which wouldn't really impact such a mobile class.

Also, this argument is soon to become irrelevant given how all 10 Role Actions are to become available for you in the future.

[Sunako]

Diversion IS 100% demanded.

For casters you only really need Swiftcast, Lucid and Diversion. The other two are freebies depending on the encounter. Are there knockbacks? Surecast + Manashift. Healers need help with mitigating magical roomwide AoEs and are there knockbacks (God Kefka)? Addle + Surecast. Are there heavy magical tankbusters + heavy roomwide AoEs (UwU)? Addle + Apoc.

The only real exception here is the SMN who needs Addle for an extra Wyrmwave, but even then you would be better removing surecast than Diversion which wouldn't really impact such a mobile class.

Also, this argument is soon to become irrelevant given how all 10 Role Actions are to become available for you in the future.

It also depends on class. SMN pet is doing big part of your dps and pet have separated enmity generation compared to your main character. So you theoretically do like 25% less enmity all of the time. Even for world first UwU kill summoner did not use diversion.

[Lilyth]

It also depends on class. SMN pet is doing big part of your dps and pet have separated enmity generation compared to your main character. So you theoretically do like 25% less enmity all of the time. Even for world first UwU kill summoner did not use diversion.

While it's true that the SMN's is the only real exception here since their pet takes part of the aggro generation from the class, their opener is still quite bursty, easily spiking more than 10K DPS. Dealing with spiky openers is Diversion's main scope.

The world first UwU kill SMN not having diversion is a completely different and very specific scenario that shouldn't really be used as an excuse to not use it on, let's say, Phantom Train normal.

[HyoMinPark]

Using diversion also cost you one role action slot.

Don’t worry, you won’t have to worry about that at all come 4.4! : ok_hand :
There will be literally no excuse.

Seriously. I would sacrifice half of my physical ranged role actions just to have access to Diversion on BRD. >.>

[Kabooa]

Don’t worry, you won’t have to worry about that at all come 4.4! : ok_hand :
There will be literally no excuse.

Seriously. I would sacrifice half of my physical ranged role actions just to have access to Diversion on BRD. >.>

That's not fair. Half of them are garbage.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

That's not fair. Half of them are garbage.

Shh, don't say that out loud. The devs still think they're useful!