[dev1237] Why take skill out of crafting?

[LuciBlack]

I dont like the fact that HQ will only have 1 real chance. If you want to try a 2nd attempt (aka. One touchup), the percent goes down and you risk looseing your whole item!
I guess they just wanted another way for us to loose our gear and sink our time.

[Skies]

I hate the loose lose thing, if english is your 2nd language I understand but can you please remember loose = baggy, not tight and lose= opposite of win. I am going to read it loose everytime, even if know you meant lose, because that's how I read my language.

Oy, sorry. I'm native to Portuguese so sometimes things slip. That was far from intentional, I assure you, it stems from the fact that I speak as I type and to me both sound so close that now and then I mistake them both.

[RemVye]

I dont like the fact that HQ will only have 1 real chance. If you want to try a 2nd attempt (aka. One touchup), the percent goes down and you risk looseing your whole item!
I guess they just wanted another way for us to loose our gear and sink our time.

Keep in mind if it's not loose enough it won't fit on a Roegadyn.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

I dont like the fact that HQ will only have 1 real chance. If you want to try a 2nd attempt (aka. One touchup), the percent goes down and you risk looseing your whole item!
I guess they just wanted another way for us to loose our gear and sink our time.

they said touch up was going to change so you cant use touch up as something that matters in this scenario

[Zezlar]

I'm glad that HQ materials will reap better rewards. HQ materials roughly cost between 2-6x more than a NQ in most cases, and getting a NQ version off of it really sucks. Glad I kept a lot of my HQ ore for this patch.

I am glad however they are not increasing the NQ HQ rate.

[Risx]

Man, it takes so much skill to craft, its like amazing! It's totally not just luck!

Edit:

On a side note, I'm perfectly fine if they make the lv36 skills from every class a bit less useful and instead make it so it's based on your ingredients quality. It makes a lot more sense.

[Colino]

I dont like the fact that HQ will only have 1 real chance. If you want to try a 2nd attempt (aka. One touchup), the percent goes down and you risk looseing your whole item!
I guess they just wanted another way for us to loose our gear and sink our time.

Yes they made the entire process much more logical, predictable and less wasteful while also keeping the random factor (albeit a KNOWN random factor this time) to "sink" our time.

Wait what?

Man, it takes so much skill to craft, its like amazing! It's totally not just luck!

Sometimes I try to hit Enter with my elbow instead to add some challenge.

[Ashthra]

Because crafting as it stands takes no skill. Just an ungodly amount of patience (and possibly a taped down turbo controller, depending on who you ask).

[LazKai]

A very comprehensive explanation.

I think that Rem, TheVedis and Noctis collectively have all hit the nail at least 10 times already.

Alas laymens' terms for good measure:

regardless of whether or not you have HQ mats in your synth, if you manage to get 800+ quality, the chance of HQ output is much higher. The only thing HQ mats do, is start you at a higher quality. They do not automatically make your chance 50~100%.

[Vaen]

I'm pretty new to FFXIV and these forums but I'm already starting to see why so many people are sick of random complaining against generally good changes that goes on here.

OP, I see what you're trying to say, but I REALLY think you're incorrect in saying that, in the current system, getting to ~300 quality with NQ items because of "skill" = more HQ items. There's been SO many times where I used NQ items and got really high quality due to luck/skill, and the finished product ended up STILL being NQ. And then there were all the times where I got the quality to 60 or so, and the finished product was randomly HQ. The current system is too random and meaningless, and the changes they're making are on the whole positive because it allows us to understand what quality and HQ ingredients actually DO.

TL;DR your argument is invalid because the current HQing system is too random and the new HQing system makes sense.