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    RaquelleAvarosa's Avatar
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    Raquelle Rosalia
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Tanks that annoy the heck outta me.

    Those that stand righttttttt at the border but not inside of a dome shaped heal. AST’s collective, SCH’s sacred(not that often since the area is much larger), and WHM’s asylum. Especially AST’s collective, the regen is high.

    I don’t understand. How hard is it to move 1 step in? Just that 1 step! Won’t cause the boss to turn. Just that 1 tiny god damn step.

    -pulls hair out-

    And to make things worse? The tank that set off this rant is a friend. He had the audacity to reply me, “why? I don’t need that heal.” When I asked him why won’t he move into my Collective during Tsukuyomi EX(after gun Nightfall, before tank buster, duration was enough for him to receive the regen).

    My fellow ASTs would know that Collective’s size is almost the same as Tsukuyomi’s hitbox, when I stand right under but behind her, I can cover everyone.

    That reply was the moment I thought, “yeah eff this I ain’t gonna effing heal you anymore.”



    Edit: Standing in the boss' hitbox DOES NOT EQUATE to standing directly under the boss. Please know the difference. So many people do not get this. =.=
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    Last edited by RaquelleAvarosa; 07-06-2018 at 12:10 AM. Reason: Added my 2nd post to this. Couldn't edit before on mobile. WHY SE WHY?!

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    Player Linx0r's Avatar
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    Natti Lockeheart
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Mmmmm, maybe......stand closer to the tank when you do this? Maybe place your bubble in a better position for the tank? I dunno. Just a thought! It seems like this really bothers you <hands chill pill> There...taste the happy....
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    Azbroolah's Avatar
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    Atticus Macalistar
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 80
    What really irks me is when they pull one pack of adds then stand there and hit it for a few seconds, so I plop down Earthly Star or Shadowflare or whatever, then they pop Sprint and run to grab two more packs leaving my lovely bubble behind. Ugh!
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    KonaMochi's Avatar
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    M'hihiro Amariyo
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    Healers can move alot easier than tanks. I would rather not have the tank face the boss on the party just to get in the aoe heal. Just adjust the aoe placement. kthx.
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    RaquelleAvarosa's Avatar
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    Raquelle Rosalia
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Linx0r View Post
    Mmmmm, maybe......stand closer to the tank when you do this? Maybe place your bubble in a better position for the tank? I dunno. Just a thought! It seems like this really bothers you <hands chill pill> There...taste the happy....
    I’m already standing at the butt of the boss. Any closer I would be in front of the boss. That’s for collective. My asylum is macro-ed onto my target which would always be the boss. Unless the hitbox of the boss is exceptionally large, asylum would usually be the same size as the boss’ hitbox.
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    RaquelleAvarosa's Avatar
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    Raquelle Rosalia
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by KonaMochi View Post
    Healers can move alot easier than tanks. I would rather not have the tank face the boss on the party just to get in the aoe heal. Just adjust the aoe placement. kthx.
    READ what I wrote. Geez. I already said that it wouldn’t cause the boss to turn. /facepalm
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by KonaMochi View Post
    Healers can move alot easier than tanks. I would rather not have the tank face the boss on the party just to get in the aoe heal. Just adjust the aoe placement. kthx.
    If it’s something like AOE raid damage that an AST is trying to mitigate with Collective Unconscious, so long as the boss isn’t doing any cleaves (which they tend not to during things like ultimates—Aerial Blast, Hellfire, Earthen Fury, etc.) there isn’t really much of an issue of the tank sliding in to stand under the bubble during the outgoing damage, and then returning to the front of the boss immediately afterwards. It’s all about knowing a boss’ mechanics and timings. The AST’s placement is also important as they need to be able to cover DPS as well, and if the bosses’ hitbox is relatively large, they can’t just stand in the middle to get everyone. Not to mention they cannot move during Collective without canceling it entirely.

    There’s also no reason for a tank to move out of a healing bubble after a healer has already placed it. The amount of times I drop Asylum, Sacred Soil, or Earthly Star directly on the tank and they run out of it is astoundingly annoying.
    I also have the same issues during content with ranged DPS being off in Narnia, not getting AOE heals, and then complaining when they have low health or die. Want heals? Move in.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 07-05-2018 at 03:45 AM. Reason: New 3,000 character limit? Apparently not; still getting the 1,000 limit warning. SE, pls.
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KonaMochi View Post
    Healers can move alot easier than tanks. I would rather not have the tank face the boss on the party just to get in the aoe heal. Just adjust the aoe placement. kthx.

    How about standing the hell still in a reasonable spot so the healer can get up their bubble or earthly star on you. It's not hard and many tanks I've healed have made a effort to stay in my bubbles when I place them. That with Regen if im on WHM and you're set but if are consistantly moving away from the bubble and standing outside the bubble, knowing it's set there for you to get HP back then you're taking more damage that could be healed up faster. Plus it helps out the healers in case they want to dps. If you don't know how to position the boss while in a healer bubble then maybe you need to go back to the Hall of the Novice. Just saiyan.


    /2 cents
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    Jibikly Pureheart
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    As a healer that plays all 3 classes the most annoying is in dungeons when the tank hits a pack of 3 mobs... I’m waiting to see what he does .. he stays hitting them for 5-6scs. I drop my “stuff”, as a preferred WHM ido holy and then ... off he goes... to next pack... first mob is stunned stays behind..., tank panics comes back as thinks it’s probably on FPS or whatever...its messy and annoying...
    tanks... 2 gcds max if you want to multi pull.. don’t stand there waiting for the mobs to hit 1/3 down and then go pull more.. you are screwing everyones “rotation”.
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    Apple Jinx
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I mean if I am tanking and they are badly placed I'd choose my positioning above the mitigation
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