HoH feedback

[Paladinleeds]

let's bring back permadeath in EX trials.

Yep, I agree with this. Permadeath should be a thing in Ex trials and raids. So yeah, let's do this, and let's also keep the floor 21 start.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Does Xande gain a buff if you wipe? Do you get debuffed if you wipe? 90 mins wasted is a 'mild annoyance'? If 90 minutes is an annoyance, what about a few hours? You admit right there that's all it does - inconvenience you. It doesn't make the boss hit harder or gain mechanics, it doesn't increase the number of patrols or add floor debuffs. It just wastes your time.

That's the whole point of a gauntlet; it takes a long time. If you reduce the time commitment by too much, it defeats the entire purpose of such a system. On the subject of more difficult floors. I'd love if the spike occurred at floor 61+ or thereabouts, but then we'd have another thread of people whining it's too hard.

[Melichoir]

31+ are the challange tiers. You either pug it and run it in one go (or try to), or you get people you can run it in parts over a few days.

Thats the way its designed. I personally dont want it to have it broken into 3-4 tiers. That to me just makes it easier to do, not harder, simply by making it "Oh hey, if we make it to 81, I no longer have to do 31-80 and can just restart at 80 over and over.

Thats stupid and less interesting to me cause it drops the stakes at higher floors cause I know Ill have a 'safety' net. IMO, just leave it as it is. I like it that way. If they add another 100 floors after lvl 100, sure, then create a new tier at that point. But until then, leave it be.

[kyomaZZ]

Tbh there's no real need for anything in the game, no rewards from any content is really needed to do anything but ultimate, I would say that the reward structure criticism could be applied to the whole game

this
and this give lack of motivation to invest time into anything, i farmed almost everything in 3.x and in SB we got a reskinned 3.x
another mount or minion or glamour, i took 3 months break, came back in 4.3 but feels like i need break again

[Ayer2015]

Sure, I have one for you. THAT'S NOT HOW THE CONTENT WAS DESIGNED, suck it up and either set the time aside or don't do it at all. ITS THAT SIMPLE!!! Stop sitting here begging for something that is already trivial, to be made even more trivial because .. "you don't wanna"

Your time may be trivial to you, but I value mine. I wouldn't have made a forum thread about this otherwise

[Ayer2015]

Tbh there's no real need for anything in the game, no rewards from any content is really needed to do anything but ultimate, I would say that the reward structure criticism could be applied to the whole game

Wait.... weren't you criticizing my prior forum history posts pointing out his very fact.....

[Kazrah]

Your time may be trivial to you, but I value mine. I wouldn't have made a forum thread about this otherwise

Most people value their time, which is why they learn how to adequately manage it by (in this case) breaking down that five or six hour marathon into a few sprints of anywhere from 30 to 90 minutes spread out over a few days.

[Melichoir]

Your time may be trivial to you, but I value mine. I wouldn't have made a forum thread about this otherwise

If you cant dedicte time to it, thats your problem, not the games. The game has difficulty built in a few different ways. The 'Gauntlet' means you gotta not only dedicate time to it, but also while playing it understand more is riding on you to do it right. If you can start at lvl 81 anytime you want after you hit 80, then you can be more risky and less observant in what youre doing. You have the safety net. But if wiping means you gotta start back at 21, that means you gotta be more meaningful and use better judgement to succeed. Cause you dont want ot redo all of that.

Furthemore, if time is such a huge deal to you, get some friends and do a few hours at a time then take a break. There is no rule that says you have to run 21-100 all in one sitting. Thats on you. Again, if you cant dedicate the time, then thats on you, not the game.

[Remedi]

Wait.... weren't you criticizing my prior forum history posts pointing out his very fact.....

No I was criticizing this thread, I agree with the need of long term goal, which is what I'm saiying often this times

[Mixt]

All it takes is one guy skipping out on you and it's back to the start for you.

This is a thing that happens very, VERY often.

Getting the same people back together the next day is nigh-impossible.

So good luck with that, i can't even get past 50 without someone leaving, and that's the end of that, start over.

Managing the party is harder than the content itself.