HoH feedback

[Kazrah]

One day, you may have a kid, and the idea of "only" five hours is going to seem so ludicrous to you that you 'll marvel at the person you were then..

I don't have a kid, and I find five hours of anything other than sleep to be stupid. That being said, I also know how time management works, and have no problem being able to spread that five hours across a couple days thanks to the fact that your progress gets spared every ten levels. I'm sure there's some sort of parenting argument about how they won't let you, but I've also seen gamer parents do a pretty good job working around that.

Also, I love how there are all these complaints about how long HoH is when no one has brought up that it's only half as long as PotD and requires clearing just 80 floors rather than the 150-floor slog needed to clear PotD. In fact, HoH just seems like an improvement on PotD in every possible way, and my only complaint would be the similar lootbox issue that befouled the loot tables for the Eureka chests.

[CorbinDallas]

Also, I love how there are all these complaints about how long HoH is when no one has brought up that it's only half as long as PotD and requires clearing just 80 floors rather than the 150-floor slog needed to clear PotD. In fact, HoH just seems like an improvement on PotD in every possible way, and my only complaint would be the similar lootbox issue that befouled the loot tables for the Eureka chests.

The funny thing is that HoH is actually easier than PotD, since you have far more ways to deal with bad RNG than before. Bad set of debuffs but want to save Serenities? Open the gate asap and conceal to the exit. Items and abilities disabled, with added gloom? Just magicite. The list goes on.

In palace you only had...witching and rage. The latter not even functioning if you had anti knockback on the floor.

[BillyKaplan]

I would argue that the content SE has been putting out is in fact underwhelming.

The only content in the game that people have to clear is MSQ, and even that's debatable. Everything else is designed by the "theme park" mindset where it will likely cater to a niche, but that niche will find it very fun and engaging to the point it's what will keep them subbed. If you still haven't found your niche, maybe it's time to move on, it happens.

What ever happened the "never seen before in an MMO" content

Wasn't one of those instances a mistranslation, and he said "in OUR MMO"?

As for the main topic of time investment, meh, it's like any other content that requires that sort of thing. My FC's XIV time on Sunday was converted to tabletop, and yeah, sometimes we postpone because people can't make it. But them's the breaks. Same with this. You know it's going to be Fixed-party exclusive, so you plan ahead. When we were running PotD, we'd do it one floor set at a time, maybe two, just because it wore us out that much, and we continued the next week. If anything, making the tiers longer will scare a lot more people away and will be all the more punishing. Now a death means you lost up to 29 floors of progress and Hoards instead of up to 9.

[Ayer2015]

The only content in the game that people have to clear is MSQ, and even that's debatable. Everything else is designed by the "theme park" mindset where it will likely cater to a niche, but that niche will find it very fun and engaging to the point it's what will keep them subbed. If you still haven't found your niche, maybe it's time to move on, it happens.

I've already decided to unsub after the next Eureka zone until pre- next xpac. I've come to realize the only thing I like in this MMO is the MSQ, and there is no need to be subbed for 2 years to experience that.

[ElazulHP]

Hmm feedback? HoH in a nutshell: It's not amazing or outstanding I'd say serviceable or ok. It's a reskinned Palace of the Dead really which I guess is fine as long as them reusing content to death over and over again doesn't bother you. I give it a pass because it makes leveling my classes to 70 much easier. So thanks for that I guess. Rewards need to be readjusted I'd say. At least for the silver sacks. Mostly get worthless fireworks from those. I'd honestly rather get potions that heal you like the change made in Eureka. Something useful at the very least.

[Azper]

I just wish each set of floors would award at least 1 loot bag in addition to the potsherd upon completion. It's frustrating running an entire set and not getting a single bag.

[LadyKairi]

I have to point out.... you say people won’t do the challenge floors... but it’s been said that they gave us the challenge floors even earlier than we got the potd ones, BECAUSE they were so popular.

And puh-lease with the “people with families and full time jobs don’t have time wahhh”. I have a static mate who works, has a very young baby, and still can make it to our 4 hour Raid nights. A friend of mine works many hours, yet has time to set aside tomorrow for us to get in HoH challenge floors. You wanna do something, you make time for it. You’re not willing to put aside the time, you obviously didn’t want to run it bad enough.

[Alleo]

I would argue that the content SE has been putting out is in fact underwhelming. What ever happened the "never seen before in an MMO" content

That was the Role play actions at the end of the story, but they suddenly changed their tone from "never seen before in an MMO" to "never seen before in FF14". I really wont trust any of such statements anymore..they are just overhyping stuff in 99% of the cases..

On topic: It would have already solved quite the problems if they had made 50 floors casual and 50 floors hardcore and let people simply start at 51 as soon as you beat 50 once. If they raise the difficulty at least a bit thanks to that, I would be fine with that because even with complete strangers and missmanagement, no real talk about the usage of stuff and more, we still managed to get to 81.

[KageTokage]

With how much sustain potions you need to burn to not die on floors 80+ it would be really nice if all of the confetti drops from puches were replaced with those, preferably in quantities proportionate to the type of pouch opened.

[Remedi]

I have an idea. Let's start from floor 99 so everyone is happy RIGHT? /s

I really despise this kind of attitude, they already made so many concessions on this content and STILL ppl complains, to the point it'll be made A JOKE and then ppl wil complain that the content is a joke too.